You can use this thread to talk about Brazil’s quarterfinal match against Colombia, which starts in a little under 2 hours.
First comment, looking forward to the game. Hope it’s better than the France-Germany match just saw.
I didn’t watch the Germany vs. France game and wondering how Germany looked? If Brazil does win today, do you fear the Germans in the SF based on what you saw today?
My friend said their midfield was fantastic, something we can’t say for Brazil unfortunately.
Germany was very solid and didn’t let France have any chances. They had practiced a pretty high back line in the first half and was caught once or twice by Griezmann running behind them, but Neuer was equal to the task. Their pressing was thorough and well-rehearsed, Cabaye and Pogba had no time to play any balls forward except after they immediately dispossessed the Germans, so Benzema didn’t have much to work with. In the second half the Germans defended narrow and clogged the middle very well. They counter-attacked with some pace after Schurrle come on. In all I think Germany is looking quite good, but France isn’t a great team on the flanks while Brazil is, so can’t really draw too much conclusion from this performance.
they were tired exhausted team
they were tried average team with fantastic goalkeeper
Shurler look like Jo but he is more dynamic
Ozeul is fade
my prediction brazil 4 coloumbia zero
my prediction is 2-1 for Brazil but I hope your prediction come true!
u are correct : iam wrong
what about Neymar ??
Brazil will win comfortably.
Let’s go Brazil.
Germany has reached a record 4th semi-final.
Hey, I am cheering for them to reach another milestone: a third straight 3rd place finish!
Whatever, everyone remembers the winners – Brasil (5 stars), Germany (3 stars). These stats are just to keep those conceited Germany bandwaggoners happy!
Fred will score two goals Oscar 1goal well be fantastic Paulinho 1goal will play the match of his life
Nyemar : either injured or 2 nd yellow card
we will not play semifinal
damn it, not sure if I should be happy for your prediction or sad lol…
Brazil to thrash Colombia but lose Neymar…. nice
hoping iam half correct
Brazil will win by 4: Neymar si available and fit for
pray for that
well that is better…
Rivens thinks this brazil2014 is the ALI mutated, and he may be right
with his CAP button finally Off at least lol…
part of the mutation
Will the Germans be full strength in the semifinals? I don’t recall any yellows today – ?
Sami Khedira and Bastian Schweinsteiger both got a yellow today but don’t think they had a yellow before. But if they get one next game, then they will miss the final or 3rd place game.
I don’t think that’s right. They’re wiped clean after the quarterfinals for that very reason – i.e., so players won’t sit out of the final for cumulative yellows
Mmmm Lisgar will have to clarify this again. They are wiped clearn after QF but I thought if you get one today, and you get another one in the SF, you miss the final? No?
They are wiped completely. They go into semi-finals the same discliplinary record as any person that has not received any booking during the first 5 matches.
The only way you’ll miss a final is a red in either the semi final or the final.
No they don’t. They’ll play in the final/3rd place game unless they get a red.
I see, thanks. But if Neymar or another with a yellow already gets another yellow today, they miss the SF unfortunately.
Yes, no suspensions but injures+flu could factor.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES … good news and it begins with M
Im so stoked!
Oh, now I see! You should have said.
more dramatic this way
Article about how Number 10s (Neymar, Messi, Rodrigues) are thriving at this world cup while the Number 9s (Fred, Higuain)
is Maicon playing today?
Is that a yes or no?
YES YES YES YES YES
Yes in portugues
niceeee, thanks dude_br, now I know why you said “YES YES” lol
here it is, the official line-up and thank God he is there.
The reason dude_br is so excited below me here is that Maicon is going to start ahead of Dani Alves!
@grantWahl “Maicon in for Dani Alves. Bit of a head-scratcher.”
I am surprised someone as knowledgeable as Grant would find this surprising?
don’t get me started
tell me about it! even when the coach finally makes the change we have been waiting for, someone questions it.
I wouldn’t call him knowledgeable. If you are going to read the work of journalists who are English-speaking, they tend to have the same opinion as the English speaking media. They know the EPL teams, Barca and Real. Unless one is a true fan of the national team, don’t expect them to know that Maicon is a better player than Alves. It’s expected that an “expert” should know that but it’s not always the case.
As much as I like Maicon over D.Alves, how is his speed to track back and defend?
I’m worried about that as well, but if he can provide better service for Fred and combine better with Hulk and Oscar, he’ll more than make up for any defensive vulnerability.
A little risky cause Brasil’s defense will be coming up against James, Cuadrdo, Teo and Martinez + Colombia’s genuine threat on the counter-attack.
Cuadrado will probably play more on the other side of the pitch, but Maicon might have problems against Armero.
True, Armero is an absolute tank when it comes to running without the ball.
But his crosses should be good for Fred and Neymar. Alves’ crosses rarely led to anything.
Agree! It may be a win-win for Scolari: if he plays great and Brazil wins, well, that is the objective. If he sucks or if Brazil loses, he can point at this replacement and say “see, I had a reason for not playing him”
Again Scolari makes this blog eat crow. He changed the line up again. I swear if I read another person says how stubborn and stuck in his way Scolari is, we should all just disregard their opinion as dribble.
Dunno man, I hope we can all celebrate with Felipao and his good decisions.
Very much needed change but still hoping to see more of Willian and Bernard.
going to bar, back after 3-0 Brasil victory
Dude, don’t be so confident! I really think Colombia can threaten Brasil
Dude, don’t be so negative! I really think Brazil can beat Colombia
Guys, to be perfectly honest, I’m trembling with anxiety!
Started with some pressing!!!
Maicon looking for the corner already. Nice
SILVAAAAAAA I LOVE YOUUUU
Thiago Silva!! another defender scores
YES! Set-pieces becoming a weapon!
This game somehow feels different. I am loving the energy so far. It all started with Fernandinho getting an interception and launching an attack that led to a corner.
I hope they stay awake
no stupid conceded
Does Neymar get the assist?
I agree with you guys the Maicon is a more secure defender, but I’m not on board with all the anti-Alves talk in general. If you send you must accept risk sending your volantes forward, and Dani (in my opinion) is the best at both getting forward and defending, but yes, it is very close between the two because Maicon contributes more stability.
PS..if you asked me my favorite between the two, I’d say Maicon, for his overall performance and career. And I like his haircut better than Dani’s
Colombia threatning nooo!
Brazil is starting to waste. Plz score the assurance goal. Don’t wan them coming back like chile.
Where was this Paulinho in the group stages?
Still gives the ball away too much for me
Looking a LOT better, though
Oh god now Fred is blocking his own team’s shots
What the H is Fred doing?
We’re playing very well, but we need the security of a second goal.
Luiz has some skills!!
What is with these heavy touches from Brazil. I guess it is the result of playing faster.
Maicon is better than most the team in simple build-up passes
Who’s the idiot ref?
Probably some loser who’s trying his best to eliminate Brasil (just like Howard Webb).
What a biased ref!
Omg Hulk will you ever score…?
He wastes too many chances. Even when he’s playing well, he makes no actual contribution to the team winning.
Hulk’s got everything but the finish.
Should have left that one for marcelo
What about fernandinho’s touch?
Neymar, plz finish this FK!
Bad call really
It was a legitimate foul!
It was a dive
def was using his leg to hold on to Neymar so it can be a foul
His FK are off today. Hope a third time is a charm.
Colombia is fouling soo much!
Haha neymar always on hulk for not passing it back
Happy for the performance. Not for the score.
True that, I felt the exact same way against Holland in 2010.
Brazil is really in need of some finesse players like a Bernard. Oscar continues to be disappointing on the attacking end. We are also missing too many final passes that would have led to great chances. This is a game where I would like to see Bernard come in or even Willian. Colombia is terrible at defending and we are not taking advantage of it.
I agree, but Oscar is doing an amazing job at not letting James play … but I agree about the final pass. Columbia is giving too much space… they will give more space in the second half
We should have been 2-0 up by now … anyway do not repeat 2010 QF second half
Really really wish we had scored a second, but Fernandinho, Thiago Silva, and yes, Paulinho have been sooo good today.
Easily the best first half we’ve played in the tournament, that one 3v1 that Silva cut out notwithstanding. Good to see Thiago Silva, Marcelo, Hulk, Fernandinho all stepping up even as Neymar is well contained by Colombia. But we NEED a second goal before I’ll breathe easy.
that was a brilliant interceptn by captain
But the second half is not so great.
Wow, amazing first half and it feels like QF 2010 deja vu…hopefully not tho! we should be 3-0 by now! i cant feel my body!
Stating the obvious but we really need a second goal.
i would like to comment but they called me ALI
ha ha ha ha
the most important is to brazil win and that is all
Havent you killed yourself yet?
is neymar fit? doubt it
He’s been running his heart out (he must learn to score again, in order for Brasil to advance).
i would like to say iam totally upset by Fred: i predicted he will
score two goals …..iam totally against ALI on that
he want no true striker
but iam against him
the funny thing some called me ALI : my wife will be angry
Man Fred is not active enough for this team. It would be so good if it was Willian neymar and Oscar with hulk up top instead of Fred
u blv hulk?
I believe hulk what?
do not u ??are u ALI??/
He is Ali
Huh? Lol what are you saying
I hate the guy but this is a game someone like Pato could have helped, however he’s a sub par finisher.
There’s a live stream of racing drivers Helio Castroneves, Tony Kanaan, Juan Pablo Montoya, Sebastian Saavedra, Carlos Huertas, and Carlos Munoz watching the game and rooting for their respective countries: http://www.indycar.com/News/2014/07/7-4-World-Cup-Watch-Party
Brazil dominated the first half, but I am still worried about colombia’s speed up front.
We should have more than one goal given the amont of chances
Yeah, Ospina’s had a great game, Hulk needs to finish better!
i just suggest Brenard or Willian in place of Fred
Hulk fals striker
we will win this match with high score
I still would like to see Neymar score a goal like Maradona’s but not before we secure the match!
Refs giving free kicks against Brasil really easily!
Lot’s of rough play on both sides
Neymar really needs to stop losing the ball and lingering on it.
Rodriguez learning how to dive. This ref’s biased
Marcelo keeps taking an extra step or two that are not necessary. He is not as direct as be before.
I don’t know if our midfield is better today or theirs just suck but Brazil operating much better in the middle compared to last game.
Chile had a much better shape and were pressing us more effectively.
Neymar needs to leave those right side Free Kicks to Hulk and stop hogging them.
Neymar is messing up every forward pass today … something’s wrong …
Why is Brasil sitting back?
Our think our midfield is still lacking. We’ll see what substitutes bring.
This referee probably doesn’t have his yellow and red cards with him.
Just in time!
We need a sub to bring in and I actually think Ramires might help.
For useless fred
What’s the appeal of Ramires?
What a stupid stupid way to miss the next game.
Silva out of next match
What the hell did Thiago do?
Nothing , it was more of an accident if anything. All these fouls and he gets the first yellow of the match???
But this means he is out of the Semi-final.
Let’s be honest if his name was not Neymar, he probably would have been subbed off by now. I wouldn’t replace him myself, but Neymar has been poor today.
Of course, he’s been really bad. But he’s due at least one subpar performance.
Yes he has. Arguably his worst game of the tournament. Glad we haven’t needed him yet. And at least he has an assist.
Omg who would have thought that ??? Our two CBs scoring both today!!!!!!
I called that goal out load at the bar!
I called both goals today, though I thought the first would be Fred in the scrum
Dante should probably get in last 10 mins to get ready for next game.
i think him subbing in Henrique means he will start next game? i perfer Dante!
Colombia will play desperate now. Scolari needs to sub in more athlete defenders
Marcelo ha been outstanding today shutting down his flank as well as cuadrado who scared me more than anyone
Is that Cesar’s first yellow?!!!
What did I say about the ref being biased?
I’m sure Colombia is seeing it the other way
Yeah, all my Colombian friends are screaming about the ref.
He’s just bad. For both teams
Take Fred off , bring Dante in please. So obvious.
Should have been an offside.
Ramires in place of Hulk
Should have taken met mar off a while ago to protect him
So no yellow or red for that foul on Neymar ?
should’ve been a red
it was dangerous at the end
They couldn’t even string two passes together. Scolari has no strategy whatsoever as far as I can tell. Nevertheless, I remain optimistic about Brazil’s prospects this world cup.
I am not at all optimistic about the Germany match.
We need to put together two good halves of football for once.
Offff those last ten minutes were worse than the entire ET and SO against Chile
As you guys have noted many times, our midfield is still lacking.
While both were one goal leads, Brazil had more control of the match when it was 1-0 than when it was 2-1. Then again, the game was nearing the end and the players started to get nervous. I am happy for the win but just disappointed that we weren’t able to close it out as we should have.
When it was 1-0, Colombia hadn’t scored yet. We should have been 2 or 3 goals to the good by half time.
Well, we don’t have strikers. So we can’t finish off our chances. And this is likely to come to haunt us.
Yes, I agree. The only thing I can say about this team is we only concede from silly mistakes which can be seen as good or bad. It’s good because they can be corrected and it’s bad because one can say it will happen again.
Hopefully Neymar’s back injury is the sort of thing that hurts a lot at first, but is very quickly resolved. If we have him, plus Luiz Gustavo’s return, I think we can cope just fine with Thiago Silva’s suspension.
I was really happy with the defending and pressing, especially what I saw in the first half.
Neymar wasn’t up to his standards at all. Didn’t he fully recover from his swollen leg before the game? I really hope today’s injury isn’t something serious.
Thiago Silva is a great loss for our team, especially against Germany. I hope Dante is able to cover for him good enough.
Scolari seems to be favoring Henrique over him. Luckily, both have experience playing against Germans, although Dante’s is both more recent and spread over a longer period of time.
he is not favoring Henrique over Dante. He put Henrique in as extra DM
I dunno. Dante hasn’t seen a minute of first-team action, not even in training. However, I think Scolari might go with whatever CB he feels is better on the right side of defense…and I’ll bet that’s Henrique.
I’ll have to say, Chile was superior to this Colombia team. Regardless, we are through; but with Thiago Silva out, and possible doubts about Neymar, the semi-final looks risky.
2-1 what a scare. Worried about Neymar . No silva for semis.
Leave it to our CB to defend and score goals, what a fucking duo. I’m worried about Thiago missing the next game but I’m optimistic that Dante understands German football
I am ashamed of this brazil team! Not sure if they are brazil or Norway!! To their credit they are playing with 10 men; Fred is a spectator just like me.
please, enough with the “woe is me” act
It’s a bit over the top, but Muktar has a good point in there towards the end.
The 1982 team was what made me a Brazilian fan; but frankly, I’d settle for a Hexa regardless of style at this point.
I am not ashamed of this team. You go to war with what you have. I am living in the moment and right now they are WINNING. Historian can judge how or why they are winning, but I am a fan and I DONT CARE about the x and o right now.
brazil play with 10 men:guess who is preventing Marcello to score
Frenandinho earn his place with Luis G.
Dante in place of T.S
you know basically, brazil have been playing with 10 men since the beginning of this tourny
Yes guys!! what i say! Where all my haters now? ajaja Good game guys. Hope neymar is ok!
I hold Scolari responsible for Colombia’s goal. The midfield was clearly tiring and he was very late with substitutions.
Thank you I think I was the only one who saw this. Scolari has been a horrible coach so far.His starting lineups is garbage clearly a lot of his starters don’t deserve to start. He even could’ve have killed the fans in the first half when the #COL team was still nervous.Why didn’t he make a sub to help keep the ball up front. There was no reason for Thiago Silva to be the “forward” if Fred/Hulk wee doing their jobs properly.At least Hulk is trying but Fred is completely garbage. Why is Willian only gets a couple minutes since the start of the WC when Oscar is completely useless. Why not playing Hulk as a central forward? Why Bernard doesn’t get that much playtime ????
Fuel for the fire….Maicon or Alves? Maicon was secure but relatively quiet.
no question about it . Maicon. Just think how we scored our first goal? A corner. How many corners does Alves win … zero. How many nice passes did Maicon make today, a bunch …admittedly no good crosses, but a lot of nice short passes in the first half in particular, where Alvez would not even have been in position to make the pass nor would he have made that pass, he would have launched a nothing aerial that the goalie would pick easily
Agree with dude_br: just feel more assured with Maicon on the right. The crosses feel more accurate, and I’m not always at the edge of my seat worrying about opponents in the gap behind Dani Alves.
It’s amazing Brazil has gotten this far with a dead weight at CF and a couple of players just being average at best. Fred has been awful although the team is to blame for some of that. Oscar really hang up his boots as an attacking player. He missed so many passes that could have helped out the attack. By missing, it’s either that he didn’t see a teammate open or just that he’s not confident enough to make the right pass. I am happy we are winning but we are making this harder on ourselves than we should. We get two goals from set pieces and we still manage to almost choke the lead away.
just proves how awesome Brazil is. playing with no strikers, and not at their best and still winning!
Dunno man, but this team MUST step it up against Germany. Nice seeing Maicon still having the legs to compete at this level.
he did look a little heavy, but still prefer Maicon
Fred, Oscar, Maicon and paulinho are too slow for fast teams like Colombia.
We got a well deserved victory but lost more in the process. Just hope Neymar fine. TS is irreplaceable but at least we have Dante who knows the Germans better than anyone else.
how could we have lost “more” ? the altenrative to victory is a loss and out of tournament.
I think he means in terms of players and their health. Last game we lost LG and Neymar was injured, this game we lose TS and Neymar picks up another injury.
Neymar in hospital for a precautionary scan. I really hope he is ok. That was a horrid foul deserving a card.
to be honest it did not look exceptional, a foul yes, but it appeared pretty typical at first glance, but Neymar did not see it coming, who knows
Let’s hope for the best. But Neymar’s passing seemed well below par in this match. And I’m still worried about how we looked like a different team (more defensive lapses, sitting back further) in the second half.
maybe we expended a lot of energy in first half, but also credit Colombia, they were desperate and they are lightning quick.
I think we could have done with some earlier substitutions to bring in some fresh legs.
David Luiz is the ANTI-FRED
David Luiz went beast mode on that free kick today. WHAT A PLAYER!!
how awesome was his sideline run! omg
you mean the one where he almost went the length of the field? Yeah, best run of tournament, tho he lost ball at end. If the rest of team had 80% of his heart this would be a lock.
I am reminded of an interfiew a few weeks ago with Ricardo Rocha, and David Luiz said “Knife b/t our teeth, just like you said Ricardo”.
Great run especially considering how many times he was fouled during it. I wish he had some support on that play though.
Brazil still playing with 9.5 players. How long will we continue with this.
After 12 years we are again in the semis.
About time, too many silly mistakes costing this team! Good barrier to cross.
Still hearing people screaming that Brasil has bought FIFA. What a joke! Hope everyone gets shut up!
At this point, it’s completely ridiculous. We were the beneficiary of ONE of the DOZENS of wrong refereeing decisions at this tournament.
And our opponents have been the beneficiaries of many.
Yeah, this match was won fair and square, haters can keep hating and Brasil can keep winning!
the colombians got 5min of extra time, why they complaining
No, the Colombians have been fully of class and respect for Brasil and their performance. It’s just been the European teams and their band-waggoning fans who keep complaining.
Let’s not take anything away from the Colombians — they played well and had us on the edge of our seats through the match. But I still believe the Chileans we faced were a sterner test.
wait im hearing that too…what do they base their rants at though? all of our goals were good. and we were getting pummled out there with the ref not protecting the brazilian players so…what are the haters complaining about?
who the fuck cares what the rest of the world thinks
You know what continue playing Fred, this is the only way the international community will be convinced Neymar is good.
Hello? Are you guys alive? Is there a pulse left??
All good, but those added 5 minutes felt like an eternity.
True, there has been so MUCH added time this world cup!
What a match ! Now we are at war !
In the first half we won most of the 50-50 balls, first time i saw this since confeds… Fernandinho and Paulinho fought their hearts out. Second half lapsed a bunch, Scolari could have subbed earlier. Fred is really useless.
Glad we won but the price we paid is high. Thiago Silva, Neymar. I pray to God Neymar can recover from this assault.
Can Brazil appeal the suspension to TS?
Yes, but success not guaranteed
was it clearly an accident?
Only if they can show with replays that it was an accident. Certainly didn’t look like that to me.
What was the card for exactly?
Jostling the keeper.
He took the ball first though. I agree it’s a foul if there’s a rule against stealing the ball from the goalie during the kick, but a yellow for something like that seems excessive.
Scolari should have subbed Fred for a stationary post, at least you can make 1-2 passes with it.
he could have subbed ALI for Fred and we would be better off
While he has sucked as an attacker, he did pull off a couple of good defensive moves in this match. That said, we brought him because of his (hopefully) goal-scoring prowess, and so far, he hasn’t delivered.
He spent more time on the ground than attempting to make a play. If I didn’t know better I could have sworn he was some type of root vegetable, perhaps a potato.
So now Brazil is winning on just…being Brazil. Still believe we can win, it may not necessarily be pretty, but I am a thru and thru Brazilian fan and I take the it as it comes. We now face Germany without Silva and possibly Neymar. Filipao’s silly decision to not include an extra creative talent in his squad selection, is now looking him dead him in the face.
Absolutely, I think that despite advancing, we will see every wart on scolari’s hand before we are done
Let’s forget about the second half. I think Paulinho and Hulk had a very strong first half. This is how a like to see Paulinho.
My mom’s theory as to why the ref was biased today: Colombian drug money. I suppose it’s possible, given what happened in 1994…
I really feel for Andres Escobar and the Colombian NT in 1994, they deserved to go far!
Let us see the many ways FIFA is trying to help Brazil:
-Their captain gets a very undeserved yellow and is suspended for the SF.
-The referee gives a penalty for Colombia
-Neymar’s best player is injured and taken to hospital and the offending player doesn’t even get a yellow.
Yep, FIFA is determined to help Brazil at any cost , even if they lose all their players!….
Let em talk dude it’s frigging hypocrisy you should hear the peeps in holland right now. I find it funny seeing Robben himself said he dived a few times…. and he’s being modest ><
On to the next game guys!
There was a stretch of 20 min or so where Colombia was zooming in and out down the middle at will. Embarrassing moments. After Hernanes came on the lane was closed.
I predicted the 2-1 victory and knew Brazil would play better but didn’t expect we would play sloppy in last 25 minutes.
I called the same score, and also called each of our goals right before they happened.
I was fully feeling it today
no offense, but it’s kind of easy to call a goal when it comes from a corner or a set piece, vs from open play.
No offense taken
Neymar kneed in the back and taken to the hospital. No card for Colombia.
Hulk brought down after getting kicked with studs right in the knee. No card for Colombia.
Oscar blatantly hauled down by James Rodriguez. No card for Colombia.
Marcelo carded after barely making contact with Cuadrado.
Man, I’m sure glad we have FIFA and the officials on our side.
It pisses me off that the refs seem content to just let the opposition hack down Neymar whenever they please.
Man , I have never been as mad as I am today. Won the game and lost so much in the process
True, but Luiz Gustavo’s coming back. Plus, he can offer a little bit of defensive stability. Dante is familiar with the German NT and Bayern’s system. But, TS’ absence in the semis will be a MASSIVE loss.
LG may not get his starting spot back according to some BR commentators, given how well Fernandinho Paulinho played.
I thought paulinho,Fred, and Osacr continued to be our weakest performers during the cup, though Maicon looked a bit long in the tooth as well
I’m way too serious of a guy to know that you were being sarcastic. But, your whole point is that FIFA is NOT on Brasil’s side.
My real point is that FIFA is so incompetent, if they WERE on anyone’s side, would we even notice?
The play that resulted in the penalty was offside?
Seems a giant cricket-type bug decided to make itself at home on James Rodriguez during the match. Did anyone catch this live? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bruz_RxCUAAxXPw.jpg
Ewww, nothing beats Brasilian wildlife
Also, anyone know what kind of bug that is? I would say a praying mantis or a locust, but it doesn’t quite look like either of those.
I can’t believe the Ref didn’t penalize Brazil for having an extra player on the field. And look at that bug! It’s all over him! That’s a straight red!
Scolari: Neymar WILL MISS the semi-final..
Thanks for the clarification, guys.
Won’t believe it until the game starts.
Will PROBABLY miss the semifinal. If there’s any possibility that he can play, he will play.
“I think it’s going to be tough for him to play”. There’s still a chance. We don’t even know the extent of the injury yet—though by the sound of it, it’s not looking good.
Not downplaying the injury at all but Scolari is trying to hype the injury to get some points and rightly so. For such an injury that results in a hospital visit and not give the offending player even a yellow???
I’m sure part of it is hype, but Neymar won’t be 100% if he plays.
Exactly. He was very ineffective today. And minus LG and still won the game convincingly.
The point is that, even if he is ineffective, he pulls away a lot of defenders based on his reputation, and that is good for our other players.
Zetona beat me to it. The titles in these news postings shouldn’t be taken at face value, they’re aimed at sensationalism.
By the likes of it, it seems he will miss the semis.
Seems that way now.
I feel very confident that Neymar will NOT miss the semi-final. I am not at all confident that he will be effective in the semi-final. He clearly wasn’t fit today.
Normally, I don’t mind being wrong.
This time I hate it.
can’t you read without bias?
can’t you comment without being a jerk?
you purposely omitted the “probably” , so who is the jerk?
Nope, you’re still the jerk. I read the article on my phone, further tweets suggest he’s out, I didn’t “purposely omit” anything. Take your courtroom demeanor somewhere else.
Look Boeder, you PRIDE YOURSELF on being a jerk to most everyone here. Its a little late to start acting like the victim.
I’m not acting like anything..I read the article, saw the shitstorm on twitter: Neymar is out of the entire cup [not just the semi] posted it here. You throw your cheap words then post the same thing.
you posted 15 minutes before i saw the live announcement. At the time Scolari said “he will probably miss the next game”. They did not yet know extent of injury.
Zetona noted the same discrepancy.
Anyway, at least you know how others feel when you jump all over them. You reap what you sow.
Zetona did without being a total jerk. Now move along..
Can you imagine if we hosted the W/C in ’82 or 2010 ? We certainly picked a dreadful time to be host. Why has it taken so long anyways?
seriously Rich, is ANYTHING ever ok for you?
Some. I’m not willing to smooth things over just because. Besides, I have already stated that come what may, I still believe/want us to win this MoFrappy.
Pardon my language, but Fernandinho was fucking immense.
And by the way, two of his four fouls were emphatically NOT fouls.
So, do you think the coach will pull a scolari and bring in Henrique to replace TS and not Dante??? Nah, he can’t be that clueless!
Anyways, I understand it is too early , but to make up for TS loss, would you play a 3-man defense with DL, Dante and Henrique? 5-3-2 formation or even 5-4-1 to clog the midfield.
It’s going to be Dante, Henrique was brought in as another DM.
I would kill to see the 3-5-2 formation against Germany, and am going to try and get up a mini-article tonight on that very subject.
Oeeeh can’t wait! Make a tactical sketch !!! Always love that stuff hahaha < Fifa tryout =P
Please do, very interesting to read it. While it is not impossible , I would like to read your thoughts on how we can beat Germany without TS and assuming a half fit Neymer.
Maybe bring in Bernard for once. Or hope that Fred scores a hat trick.
gaaah Fred … I would kill to have Fabiano upfront right now…
Have to ask this question again , assuming it got lost in the aftermath of the win today: can Brazil appeal the yellow card to TS or is it impossible as it would imply favoritism from FIFA towards Brazil ?
I think it’s possible, but it was also pretty silly from TS and I doubt it’ll be overturned.
I thought it was more of an accident than anything else. Didn’t deserve more than a warning.
Maybe even use Neymar’s injury to show that the referee didn’t get it right.
Neymar is officially out, Dr. on TV now: “benign fracture” … shit.
Sets up an interesting storyline here … Bernard could possibly start at his former stadium the Mineirao , where he is beloved. Who knows?
Shocking!!’n but still hoping for a miracle.
So Scolari thought his team would be free from any injuries or suspensions so there was no need to call some better players. Frustration but still hope and believe this team will get it done even without Neymar and TS.
there is no miracle for Neymar, he is officially out of the cup. I saw team Dr. on TV just now.
Picture of hundreds of fans waiting outside the hospital where Neynar is staying
Rewatching the penalty. The play starts when Maicon gives up possession with a slack pass infield. Looks like Paulinho (I think; may have been Hulk) was in range to pick up the ball, but turned to the ref expecting him to blow for a foul (Maicon was under pressure from two Colombians when he gave up the ball, though I didn’t see any foul). Maicon then runs back to return to the defensive line, but assumes a position three or four yards deeper than David Luiz, keeping the Colombian attacker onside to draw the penalty.
Now for those Germans. Fred will feast on Neur!!
I didn’t like how we played the second half, thought Paulinho had a poor showing, many bad passes and he was pretty slow making decisions on the ball which hampered our saida de bola. Hulk, Fernandinho, TS, DL and Neymar were up to it imo. Maicon was a massive upgrade to Alves. Thought Thiago Silva was a moron for getting that yellow, very uncalled for, absolutely unnecessary. Oscar was nowhere to be found, he has been as dreadful as they come, his position on the wing is killing him. Fred is a motherfucker. No more. I’m out of words for this asshole so please pardon my Dutch. Marcelo was just terrible. Julio Cesar risked a red, his lunge on the Colombian dude would have put out of the semis.
Scolari’s changes [apart from Hernanes for Paulinho] were vintage Felipao. Many here overlooked Henrique’s admission into the roster saying it was a celebratory seat, he “will never see WC minutes”, well, he has magically jumped the pecking order, seems like the teacher’s pet, Scolari’s bastard, will start v Germany. Oh joy. And yes I think he played as a CB when he came on.
I think Neymar will miss the semi and that’s huge blow, Thiago’s idiocy will cost us also. Germans know Dante inside out and will expose him. Henrique? haha.
Scolari walked a very fine line in 2002, it worked out for him then. Zero injuries, no suspension iirc. 2014 is turning out to be a completely different story. His faith in the controversial subpar, season-long off-form names isn’t paying off. Neymar’s absence presents a major dilemma, who would replace him? Should he have called Robinho, Moura or Dinho for such a moment? I would have definitely take any of those names over Jo.
For me, I think the best way is to play Oscar in his favored central position and Willian and Bernard on the wings with Hulk as the CF. Willian and Bernard should have gotten more minutes at this stage [eg. for Oscar, Fred or for the many times Ramires came on]..
Oscar and Marcelo were playing great defensively. There were almost no attacks that developed on Marcelo’s side. He had it shut down. Oscar was all over the place closing people down. I get that he didn’t do well on offense, but I have a feeling Scolari wanted him to be more defensive in winning the ball back.
I don’t see it that way. Osar isn’t a CM. He offered zero creativity, he killed almost every counter, he was slow, he forward passes were bad..he has been just like Ozil who also has been forced to play on the wing, killing his game.
He was very slow on the counter, I’ll give you that. I remember saying those exact words on a counter and he was taking the ball up the left and just held the ball up.
Oscar made a comment after the game that suggests his is instructed to play mostly defense. I know this will set off a firestorm here, and it is disappointing.
“I changed a bit (positioning), today tried the offense more, I spoke with Scolari and he gave me this freedom because only defending the right is hard for me, but if it is only to be defending and winning games is good, I want to win. The Scolari trust me, I played in several positions, stole the ball and was able to help the team.”
Sweet, thanks for finding evidence to support my observation!
Oscar has found a way to contribute by helping to close down the midfield defense and repossess the ball, but he has done very little offensively, and has appeared too slow against the quick Latin sides that Brazil has squeaked by.
On a positive note, I think that he could really find his game against the slower Germany. In fact, I would say that his return to being a threat on the attack might make up for part of Neymar’s absence.
This upcoming match might be just the right moment for Bernard.
Time for Scolari to make creative use of his bench. Otherwise, I just don’t see the reason he brought half of these guys.
You are right about Oscar… Most of the first half, Paulinho was higher up the pitch than Oscar. Scolari had it between him and Fernandinho to distribute the ball through midfield
Also, I don’t think Henrique played poorly. Can you actually point to a play where he messed up and as a result screwed the team? I remember him coming on and within the first minute or so he put in a vital block. Seemed like he put in an (at the least) efficient shift. They didn’t score after he came on.
He barely touched the ball. I’ve watched this dude play for Napoli, he has no reason to start v Germany, in fact he presents nothing that seperates him from Miranda, Dede or Marquinhos. Look, I get you trust Scolari and have to disagree with every critical statement I make re his choices or his tactics but come on man..
Yes, you are right, I do trust Scolari. Also, you’re gonna have to have a better critique of Henrique than he didn’t touch the ball much. He’s a defender! His job isn’t to get touches on the ball! Especially in the last 7 MINS of the game!
Exactly, I didn’t gauge his performance today. You, on the other hand, did.
So how can you critique Scolari for putting him in if you (admittedly) didn’t gauge the player’s performance? This isn’t how it works! It isn’t how any of this works!
I criticize Scolari for having him ahead of Dante in the pecking order as indicated by his sub today and training in the last 2 days.
Because I watch Napoli, PSG and Atletico quite extensively. I know Miranda and Marquinhos. Picking this half-assed Kaka-look-alike is an insult to common sense, it can only be comprehended one way: favoritism.
Go on, defend Scolari some more..
Hahaha I’ve never heard that look a like comparison.
henrique also played as CDM…thats why scolari prefered him over DANTE………dude,first know the fact ,then argue
boeder is a PESSIMIST……..most negative person on the blog
Ronaldinho was red carded against England, so yes he did have a suspension.
But, he had Rivaldo and Ronaldo to step it up!
HERE IS oscar,hulk,willian for step up…for stepping up as a TEAM
I’ll take Gustavo over paulinho any day as partner to fernan
Arguably the two best players in the entire WC are out and people are saying we are looking for excuses! Wow!!!!
So, who was this referee again? I consider him at least partially responsible for a number of the fouls committed in this match.
The Spaniard, Carlos Velasco Carballo.
Ah, those Spaniards…
He established poor control, I agree. There should have been stern warnings, followed by yellows soon after if the two teams didn’t get the message.
Should we be worried Neymar will miss the game, especially since he was not particularly vital to our win today. Maybe having Willian in his place will add a different dimension to our game.
well we should be worried but there are still talented players. Maybe the others will be more aggressive now. We are definitely underdogs now.
Yes, because he IS our attack, make no mistake. We have scored our last 3 goals off set pieces (two of which Neymar delivered.) Brazil CAN win even with Neymar out, IF the rest of the team massively steps up, but should we be worried?
Worried doesn’t even begin to cover it.
Well, we don’t have a choice. Though Neymar does draw defenders to him, in theory making it easier for our other attackers, we’ve never seemed to take too much advantage of it. And on the occasions when he wasn’t on the field, the team has stepped up. Let’s hope they can do so again.
Naturally we must be worried as he is our best player but today has given me a lot of encouragement that we can do it without him. Doe Germany really have better players than Brazil? IMO I don’t think so… The other players are just going to have to really step it up. I believe we will really see balanced attack now.
Neymar out of the WC with his injury, DAMN… Willian must start imo. This unfortunate incident may unite Brazil even more as a team and we may see some of the best team football for the next 2 matches. Though Paulinho did have his best match of the WC today, Gustavo must return to the starting 11. The midfield was wayy to open in the second half, something Gustavo would not permit.
Willing to spend at least $1000 to have some private time with the referee from today’s game. Only one of us would come out alive. Sorry guys too frustrated.
Neymar broke a vertebrate in his back!
And it does raise the question: if and when he comes back, will he ever be the same?
Neymar’s absence might work in our favor in that, it will force the Selecao to up their game and double their efforts all the more. Not worried too much about it honestly. But it shows that Filipao should have added and extra playmaker/attacker to the platoon.
tbh I’m more worried about Paulinho starting again, I didn’t think he played well today. I’m shaking like a dog who wants to shit at the prospect of Henrique starting at CB.
Scolari should have selected a better 23, no doubt, but he’ll be grilled about that when the time comes.
Scolari is silly enough to reason that Friend-rique is the right choice to partner DaLu come Tuesday.
I’m hoping they rally around this. But they might also just break down mentally.
Man! It feels weird talking about Brazil in this way.
Brazil has played decent when Neymar was out in the past. And this time, you would think they would be even more motivated. Only problem is, you are playing against the best team in the tournament.
But I know one thing : the team will not come out nervous or scared. What happened to Neymar will fire them up. Mark my words. It won’t be about skill. It is the spirit that will win is the game. And this being Germany, not another dirty South American side, I won’t have to worry about more fouls.
Zunigia – the player who injured Neymar, is I think the same player who studded Hulk in the knee.
Yes, he was. I do, however, have to say that the foul at first glance really didn’t look that BAD or harmful. But I guess the injury that came out of this is very serious. Hope Neymar can recover.
FIFA should take punitive actions against this scum. He knew exactly what he was doing.
That dirty player and the idiot referee should watch their backs now.
After never missing a game due to injury prior to this year, Neymar has now suffered three injuries severe enough to rule him out of games in 2014.
damnnnn broken vertebrae!!!
how long approx will he be out?
Ummmmm optimistic note…Ali was wrong. We made it past the quarters?
Was he ever right to begin with?
So time to speculate. Does Scolari make a like for like change for Neymar? Or do we see a new formation?
We could see a more defensive mid fielder take Neymar’s spot (e.g. Ramires) and Oscar given more offensive freedom.
I think we may see a midfield with Gustavo, Paulinho and Fernandinho with Hulk, Oscar, and Fred up front
Scolari can call up a player can’t he ?
I’m thinking Lucas …
Oh yeah, he can… Who’s on his reserve squad anyways??
Alan Kardec / Lucas Moura / Leiva / Miranda Filipe Luis / Rafinha / D. Cavalieri
I say call up Miranda and start him along side Luiz against Germany…
decent call… I’m doubting Lucas might be given the oppertunity aswell.. they are in need of a good attack.
Let’s hope the players step up. Cause now is the time to really show it.
Naw I’m just kidding. No way Scolari is gonna call up a CB to replace a FW… Lucas Moura or Alan Kardac, especially Alan Kardac because of our Striker problems, should be called up.
that would be so crazy if Kardac was called up and he made an instant impact and scored like 3 goals.
He can’t the WC started already, he can only call someone if the first whistle hasn’t gone off yet.
ah man… bummer
Really? I thought he can call up another player if one gets injured and is out for the rest of the tournament…
No. You can’t. But hey, Jo and Fred are still healthy. Thats good news.
That’s exactly what he will do, and it will spell the end of our conquest.
I’d play with:
JC; TS/Dante, DL, CB, Maicon, Fernandinho, Gustavo, Oscar, Marcelo, Bernard/Willian, Hulk
stay possitive bro… stay possitive. We’re still in it time to unite as a whole.
I’d avoid starting Henrique so I’d slot in Gustavo at the back and start Paulinho with Fernandinho at the center. I hate it, but you gotta work with what you have.
Doesn’t Gustavo have experience at CB? I’d be cool with that.
Does anyone find it impossível to keep comments sections open on android phone?
YES!!!! Tried using an iPhone profile on Android Chrome, Opera, bloody Dolphin..nothing works!
We agree violently. Cheers
I take back everything i said. If u were listing via phone its enuf to drive one insane
Yes sim yes sim lol. It’s driving me crazy
I’m out for the next several hours, off to watch my local club play and then watch some fireworks. When I get back, I will put up a new article on Neymar and why Brazil can still win without him. It will be positive.
Happy Independence Day BM!
Thank you professor and we need some +++++ here after the events of the last fee hours. And yes, I strongly believe we can win it withiut Neymar, for Neymar!
take a look at my response to Canteev, above, which started as a prediction of gloom and doom, and ended up as a creative 2-pronged strategy to snatch victory out from the jaws of defeat
man cant wait to read what your thoughts are cuz buy loosing our key players i really dont know how we can fill the gaps.
Right now, I am furious, mad, depressed so please help me out of this state of mind.
I am still in shock and disbelief that Neymar is done for the WC , wow!
The dirty Mexicans, Cameroonians, Chileans all tried and final it took Colombia today to finally take him out of the WC.
The players have to give 1000% to win this for Neymar first and Brazil second. It will infuriate all the haters forever.
My sentiments exactly. I’m actually glad some people are seeing positives, because I’m truly sad and devasted by this news. Not just because of winning and losing. Neymar is an artist on the ball. I truly enjoyed watching him. I was hoping the back injury was something far less severe. But my own consolation is that Neymar did not play well today against a strong team and Brazil still won. So I definitely think they can beat Germany(who is a heavyweight, but greatly flawed.).
Brazil will win it for Neymar
I back that! Let’s do it.
Absolutely I believe too! And if we beat Germany, you know no one will withstand us in the final.
Go Brazil, show the world that you may take Neymar out but the team’s fighting spirit is still there and stronger.
It’s starting to hit me that we just beat Colombia. There was so much fear and doubt and we made it to the semi’s, albeit in a bitter sweet way. But god damnit it’s the 4th of July, Brazil won, and I’m 8 drinks in. It’s a good fuckin’ day!
My celebrations will start when Argentina are knocked out tomorrow.
mine will continue then.
Yes, we did. Yes, they were a good team, as were Chile and Mexico. But this is the WC, and we are fans of Brazil. I’m not saying that we might not get beaten, but if we do, it’ll be at the hands of our traditional WC rivals and powerhouses — Germany, Argentina, Holland, etc., not new Cinderella teams.
Standout players today…
– David Luiz: He was on beast mode today and at this rate, I think he can win the Golden Ball award. And the goal… nothing more needs to be said
– Fernandinho: He was terrific in closing down on the opposition, especially James R. and intercepting passes. He also triggered lots of attacks with his own passing and runs through the midfield. He also entertained with some nice ball control and juggling.
– Marcelo: Shutdown the left flank and attacked well. Had some real nice exchanges with Hulk and just looked very dangerous throughout the first half and parts of the second. Definitely his best match this WC
– T. Silva: He just had some vital interceptions, most notably an interception on a pass while Colombia were on a 4 on 2 break. Played some real gritty, yet smooth defense and never really looked bothered. It’s a shame that he is gonna miss next match against Germany
– Hulk: Finally looks extremely confident. He took on defenders, brushed them aside, he combined well enough with his teammates, he got great looks at goal and took some very good shots… It’s a shame he couldn’t get on the score sheet today. He also tracked back very well and made a couple tackles and interceptions. Great game from him and with Neymar gone, I’mpraying for more.
You got all the heroes in my book.
100% Agree, those juggling skills from Fernandinho got me going haha
I actually feel worse for Neymar than I do for Brazil. If Brazil doesn’t win the WC, I will not say only if we had Neymar. The reason is Neymar although Brazil’s best player is not at that type of level yet. It might appear that he is Brazil’s only hope but I never believed that. On the other hand, when Brazil wins the Cup next Sunday, people will all of a sudden say Neymar is overrated. Neymar did his part in the group stage, the CBs did their part in the last two games and now it’s time for Hulk and Oscar to do their job.
It is unfortunate though that Oscar is playing awful for attacking player and Hulk just can’t find a way to score. As I stated before the game vs. Colombia : Brazil is the best team Colombia will have faced. I will say it again: Brazil is the best team Germany will face at the WC. I believe Chile is as good as any team at the WC and beating them although on pks certainly shows that no one is better than Brazil. If Scolari puts the right lineup out there, I have no doubt we will beat Germany.
I hate to be a wet blanket, but I think it will take something close to a miracle to beat Germany next time out.
Is it possible? Yes, of course, and despite my criticisms from time to time, I am as wrapped up in this team as the next guy. And they are good enough to battle Germany until the end, but I think that the writing is on the wall
Silva and Neymar are the players (in fact the only ones who have held a spot since the beginning) this entire team has been built around. And Scolari failed to find/include potent players on the team (Costa, Firmino, etc.) that could have made the difference.
My guess is that it will be Germany by a goal, and that we will not only suffer defensively without Silva, but offensively, as well, where we have nobody to fill in for Neymar.
Brazil’s only chance in my estimation is to turn on the speed, and try and beat Germany by picking up the pace.
That means Alves needs to be back on the pitch, as much as I hate to say it, and Gustavo, as well.
But, we also need to try and score by beating Germany up the field, and that means I want to see Ramires, and Willian, but also Bernard.
In fact, I would start Bernard and try to utilize him. slipstream, in the seams. Let him go all out for the first half and help us create chances, replacing him with Ramires or Willian in the second half (the other should replace Fred, and if the first tactic involving Bernard doesn’t work, Brazil should abandon the lone striker formation and turn to box-to-box athleticism).
Oscar should also be much better against Germany, who is not too fast for him. In fact, this could be Oscar’s moment to shine because he should be the lynchpin in the attack: the clinical CAM, working with Bernard, Fernandinho, and Marcelo to set up our strikers, or even slip into openings where they also become dangerous to Germany’s only weakness (lack of speed and ability to cover attackers streaking in behind the midfield defense).
Sorry, can’t help myself. Started out with a prediction of doom, and followed up with means of our salvation….
I don’t know, as hard as it may seem without our two best players, I am becoming more and more optimistic that we can beat Germany. And the good news is, if you beat Germany-with TS back-you have a very good chance of beating anyone in the final.
If we can find a way to beat Germany, I would not bet against Brazil in the final
what is the right lineup according to u ?what about a 3-5-2?
We can still do the 4-2-3-1 which can function as a 4-5-1 with Hulk as the 1 at the top. I doubt Scolari will make any drastic changes to lineup.
Who would have believed it if someone said the following before the elimination rounds started:
-Our CBs would score all of Brazil’s goals in the 16th and QF
-Brazil would be playing against Germany out of all teams and without their two best players, Neymar and TS.
I’d believe it if ALI said it…
At the end of the first half, we had 59.6% possession, according to WhoScored. By the final whistle, that had shrunk to 50.5%. That tells the story.
The first half was the best half of football we played in the tournament. If we can figure out how to keep up that intensity for a whole 90 minutes—or, alternately, if we emerge from that half with a 2- or 3- goal lead, we’ll beat Germany even without Neymar and Thiago Silva. Neymar’s injury may even be a blessing in disguise if it ends up being the catalyst that gets Brazil playing 100% for a full game.
Mad props have to go to DL and Thiago Silva, who were terrific (other than TS’s silly yellow), and to Fernandinho and Paulinho, who bossed the midfield in the first half. Fernandinho did a great job deputizing for Luiz Gustavo, though I think he left some spaces where LG wouldn’t have. Marcelo also did a great job defensively, and got forward to great effect in the first half.
Fred remains an enigma—he did do some good work in attempting to combine with teammates and hold up play, but his only “shot” was when he blocked Marcelo’s goal-bound curler. We’re creating chances by playing vertical passes for our speedy forwards to run onto—that’s anathema to Fred. I though Maicon would provide him some service, but he only was able to attempt one cross.
As I mentioned below, I hold Maicon responsible for the penalty—not so much for giving away the ball, but for his poor positioning that kept Bacca onside to win the penalty.
Next question—how to beat Germany? Against France today, they controlled the midfield very well, and given how our defense gets stretched by combination play, I think they’ll cause some real problems. On the other hand, they boast much less pace than Colombia, especially with Reus out, and were exposed several times against France via simple balls over the defense. Between Hulk, Bernard, and Willian, we have more pace in attack than France, and this might be the sort of game where David Luiz’s long balls to Hulk are the perfect way to break midfield pressure. My big worry is how many fouls we’ve been conceding—Germany are the tallest team at this tournament, and they can make us pay for too many silly fouls.
fred needs to be dropped…german defence is slow and plays a high line, definitely need willian playing and hulk upfront….i’m more worried about no thiago silva – he has been holding the defence together and proved why he’s the best defender in th world by a country mile – dante is slow an short of confidence. again scolari’s squad selection comes into question – if he brought miranda and marquinhos as reserves he would’ve been covered. and leaving out lucas moura and kaka has come back to bite – these are players, teams fear, and lucas would terrify germany with his pace…but we are stuck with bernard and jo! just hope fred gets the axe…then we have a chance
unfortunately after neymar out.. fred got lifeline for tournament..
Anybody thinks Silva or Luiz will win the golden ball?
I would love to see one of them win it. Luiz is leading the Castrol Rankings, so it’d probably be him.
I really want to see Bernard start on Tuesday. I have a feeling that he’ll tear Howedes to shreds and link up well with Oscar and Dani Alves.
Are you thinking that Dani Alves is going to get his spot back?
It’s really disappointing reading the comments in articles talking about Neymar’s injury. A significant number of people think his injury is somehow justified due to his knack for diving. I don’t remember seeing him dive today.
Diving…didn’t anyone see the germans diving tonight?
Schweinsteiger and Muller, yes. Every team has players that dive because of simple risk-reward mechanisms that are largely influenced by the referees.
guys quick question…… did i have a seizure or do people think yepes actually scored that goal lol
He wasn’t even close to scoring it, the whistle was blown well before he took the shot.
why are bare people arguing with me telling me that was a goal!?!? ajajaja
i swear he blew the whistle for like 10 seconds and yepes kept going
He did, and he was well offside. I’m not sure why Yepes kept going. Don’t they hand out yellow cards for that?
i swear they do! ajaja oh well! ajajaja we won and honestly i think bernard can fill that gap…even willian can!
Those people know nothing about soccer. He was clearly offsides in that play.
Is there any chance Brazil can appeal against the TS suspension?
I asked that question too and while FIFA won’t change it, given Neymar’s terminal injury, Brazil could use that as a bargaining chip. They can point and say that we lost our best player and the offending player didn’t even get a yellow while the captain got a yellow for a play that shouldn’t have been more than a warning.
Being realistic, it will be tough to beat Germany when our two best players are out. Having said that, nothing is impossible and the team should be more than about one or two players.
Going with a positive theme and mood here and not to dwell on negativity, let us talk about reasons why you think Brazil CAN beat Germany. Here are my top 10 reasons and I am sure you guys can add your own. We need to be positive and believe!
1-Despite losing TS, we still have a world class defense in David Luiz, Dante, Luis Gustavo, Marcelo, Maicon and a revived goalie in Julio Cesar!
2-Speaking of Dante and Luis Gustavo, they have been playing in Germany (Bayern Munich) for years and know the German team probably better than any other players in the tournament. This familiarity will come in really handy.
3-The team does play good or even better when Neymar is not on the field. In fact, in today’s game, Neymar was largely ineffective but Brazil still played good and won. Furthermore, Neymar hasn’t scored a goal since the game against Cameroon and Brazil has still reached the SF.
4-With both Neymar and TS out, the Germans are automatically the favorite now and that takes so much pressure off the team. And we all know how Brazil plays when there is little or no pressure on them. Really, I am starting to think of this game like the game against Spain last year, where Spain was the favorite and there wasn’t a lot of pressure on them. We all know what happened in that game.
5-Win it for Neymar! If the players won’t be motivated and fired up to win it for Neymar, I don’t know what will…
6-Hulk has come to life in the last two games and will step up his game even further now that Neymar is out. He has done everything but score a goal so far for Brazil. Law of averages dictates that he finally will and it is probably against Germany.
7-Though not nearly as good of course, we have a very capable replacement in Willian and even Bernard
8-Germany is a great team but they are beatable. If Ghana and Algeria had a chance, I am sure Brazil, even without its two best players, has a chance.
9-Home support will be unbelievable and will absolutely energize the team. You will see an atmosphere like what we saw at the CC. Instead of pressure, the fans will give the team the support they need to go out and actually enjoy the game.
10-Given what happened against Chile and the emotions of losing Neymar and their captain, this team has already seen it all really and can only go up from here. These incidents and emotional roller-coaster will only make the team stronger and more united.
In the 2004 CA, 2007 CA and the 2013 CC, Brazil went into the final as the underdog yet went on to win all 3 and with big margins. I am confident the same can happen again here.
Germany looked vulnerable against Ghana and Algeria, two sides with multiple very pacy attacking players. Portugal gave them some problems in that regard, but always looked to Ronaldo, not to mention the uphill battle that resulted from Pepe’s red card. France doesn’t have as much pace, but still managed to find spaces. I don’t think the static Fred is a good fit for going up against the German defense, which is vulnerable to runs in behind. Hulk and Bernard, though, could work wonders.
I think the single biggest factor, however, will be that the loss of Neymar and Thiago Silva greatly lowers the expectations surrounding this team. We were so good in the Confederations Cup last year just after coming out of a really torrid three years, and so we definitely weren’t the favorites. Our success over the past year, however, meant that we came into the World Cup as favorites, and we’ve played nervously and complacently for much of the tournament. Without our best attacker and best defender, the rest of the team shoulders the responsibility, but I also doubt they’ll be vilified much if they lose. (Juan Carlos Zuniga, on the other hand…)
Tying into that, I think the “win it for Neymar” storyline should absolutely get the team and the crowd behind the players. If we struggle from now on, people will attribute it to the harsh treatment from the refs instead of the team’s own tactical issues. And regardless of whether we win or lose, I’ll bet Neymar comes into the 2018 World Cup with unfinished business.
Good post! And regarding Neymar coming back in 2018, hopefully he gets his redemption like Ronaldo did in 2002!
Good post, but really, Algeria has pacy wingers? I thought the reason Algeria lost was bc they lacked the pace. That’s my two cents though.
I thought the Algeria full back on the left was awesome and always troubled the Germans … near the end it was the left winger running into the box who scored a goal …
Perhaps it was partly Germany’s high line, but either way, the Algerian forwards rinsed the Germans for pace time after time. It’s a real shame that Neymar is out, because if the German defenders play like they did against Algeria, Neymar could dribble past all of them.
Just finished watching the game.. Props to the team, too bad we will be without Neymar and Silva in the semi- finals against Germany. I wasn’t entirely shocked because by nature of the World Cup with its extended duration, I have come to expect unpleasant “surprises” which is that ” whatever can go wrong will go wrong” . Germany lost , who I consider their best player , Reus before the cup and now we are without Neymar and Silva.
Fortunately, we are still in a GREAT position to beat Germany by virtue of our solid squad, thanks to Scolari’s solid 23 man squad. That said, in order to beat Germany, we have to insert solid technically sound midfielders to counteract the trio of Schweisteiger, Kroos and Khedira. By that I am also implying that Paulinho and Ramires should be absolute no-no’s while Hernanes and Willian should be greatly considered. Bernard is great offensively but he is a lightweight on defense so will retain Hulk in the wings who is also a work horse defensively to help out the aging Maicon. So my line up will basically look like this – Fernandinho & Gustavo as holding midfielders, Oscar in the middle with Hulk and Willian as wingers; Dante and Luiz as center backs; Maicon and Marcelo as full backs. Fred as the point man
German defence seems suspect against genuine pace especially Boateng. Our most pacy players after Neymar are Willian and Bernard. Either one or both may need to be used. Bernard is also an excellent dribbler.
Oscar has been impressive defensively but I think that Scolari is using him in a withdrawn position with more defensive duties. But overall Oscar has been very unimpressive in attack. His passes have been misplaced and he is easily being muscled off the ball in the final third.
Germanys midfield is absolutely solid and both Mueller and Gotze are a serious attacking threat. It will require technically gifted midfielders for Brazil to neutralize the German midfield. Muscle and physicality will not work as Schwiensteiger, Khedira and Croos are all big and strongly physical midfielders with technical competence.
Losing our two best players especially Neymar is devastating but Brazil should be able to find a way out of it. Germany has been streched by far weaker teams.
Yes, I agree. The key is finding speedy players that are can also track back defensively to avoid getting exploited on the other end too which is why Willian and Hulk on the wings makes more sense than Benard. With respect to Oscar, I will be ready to hook him for Hernanes if he fails to make an impact after the first half
May I also add that the Germans are relatively giants compared to most teams so they are likely to dominate the aerial battle making Benard less suitable for this match
Yes that is absolutely true.
I might try Bernard in this one to start with, and sub him out if it doesn’t work.
Reason being: Bernard might be able to create havoc for the German defense. Yes, the Germans might also abuse Bernard, but I think our D will hold up, and am thinking more of a way to score an early goal, as well as confuse the Germans at the start. Bring speed and quickness. That is our biggest chance.
Yes Willian does a lot of defensive duties for Chelsea. My worry is that Hulk has been unable to make clinical finishes. So i really dont know who will score goals. Obviously our CH are not going to score goals in every match. Also with Neymar gone we will miss the quality of his corners and his other set pieces and free kick.
Germanys finish is lethal and that is worrying me.
Luiz is great from the set piece. Believe it or not, I consider Hernanes on par with Neymar with respect to taking set pieces
Agree, and suggested a similar solution yesterday after the match.
What do you think of inserting maxwell in LB and moving Marcelo as a winger? Marcelo is probably not as fast as Willian. but a. It more technical. Although I think we can really use Willian’s pace here. Just a thought.
I will take Willian over Marcelo in the wings, he works harder defensively . Why not start both?
I like Marcelo, but he scares the shit out of me as a fullback. Given silva is out, I’d rather have maxwell in and use him as a winger. But you’re right, Willian’s defensive work is better.
I actually would drop oscar. So both can be in. Oscar has been bad this season.
WHO INJURED NEYMAR ???????
Zuniga with a knee in the lower back from behind in an aerial duel. Please switch to small letters.
yes you are correct
please see it :
machine know it
ha ha ha
Doctos says “benign fracture” at 3rd vertebrae not requirinq surgery but “immobilization” for healing which will take 4-6 weeks. I can only hope that Neymar recovers completely to carry on his glittering career at 22.
1….first please see how neymar was injured
2….yes i will do::iam sorry to write in capital
please read why they said it is benign ???
not 4 weeks : minimum 6 weeks : 42 days
not 28 weeks
first : did i think Neymar will be ijnured ??
did i think Thigo will be suspended ?
did i think Brazil will reach semifinal ???
honesty is the best policy
no and no and no : iam sure Brazil will be eleminated in
bad failure for me
but : Scolari did FATAL MISTAKE BY POOR SELECTION
OF 23 PLAYERS
the proof ??????
IF Mirinda in place of Henrique
if Cuotinho in place of Rameres
Ferminho in place of Bernard
Fernando Reges in place of Paulinho
D.COSTA in place of the camel : JO
Damioo or Rafeel in place of the donkey : Fred
F.luis in place of Maxwel
what our 11 players for Germany match ??
James Rodriguez would’ve checked under his bed for Fernandinho before he went to sleep.
Absolutely right…Fernandinho literally followed James inch by inch…
Hahaha… Yes Fernandinho hunted him down
Scolari + the medical team :
were 100 percent responsible Neyamr injury :::
it is prohibited to play with unfit player ::
not completely heal from thigh and ankle injuries
this is make him more likely to be injured
Neymar should not played this match ::
done before by Zagalo in 1998
Ronaldo : epilepsy ???
BENIGN VERTEBRAL FRACTURE ??
yes it is benign :
if there were neurological or nurovascular damage :
for example : lumbar v. : paraplegia
cervical above 5 : quadrplegia
it is not benign
but in this fracture with NO neurovascular damage
it is benign :
just rest +analgesia
COULD NEYMAR PLAY WITH UNDISPLACED VERTEBRAL
will be displaced : and damaged his his cord :
1….Neymar injury is benign for sure BUT will never play for
at least : 42 days : 6 weeks : minimum
2…we lost our cup for sure
And the machine speaks again.
ha ha ha
u are funny :
yes you are right :
Good to see you back…
thanks for your kindness
hope i will not annoy any one:
Of course you did not annoy anyone; it’s just that the capital letters made the impression that you are shouting…and always shouting.
I agree with Scolari. He was targeted by Chile and now Colombia. Now to be fair we also did target James Rodriguez……..
Scolari said that he was tired of getting pushed around on his own soil and that it was time that they played a little bit more of his style, more aggressive. We can say that Scolari was true to his word and we witnessed a very aggressive Brazil yesterday vs Colombia.
Neymar in pain :
the worst photo
David Luiz a true warrior and a sportsman
fracture 3rd lumbar vertebra
Neymar will have paraplegia : paralysis of his both lower limb
if the fracture displaced to just one inch more in his case
New article up: why Brazil can still win without Neymar, plus a paean to their fallen talisman. Find it here: http://brazilworldcupblog.net/2014/07/why-brazil-can-still-beat-germany
It says page not found..pls check
Also, BM if there is anyway for you to check why the discussion keeps closing on android devices it would be greatly appreciated. If not it is understandable.
BM, I’m getting a 404 error on that link. And it isn’t showing up on the front page for me. Could you please check?
Link does not work.
is not scolari responsible for neymar’s injury? should not neymar have been subbed after 2nd goal?
whatever,fred will be useless against german…its definitely better to start Hulk…fortunately,hulk stepped up every match…….
And what if Colombia had managed to score the equalizer, forcing extra time ?
thats why scolari could add more defensive cover.again neymar was not 100%fit,so he could be subbed earlier
I still can’t wrap my head around that silly yellow Thiago Silva got himself. Why?
Silly, silly yellow. Neymar’s injury was beyond our ability to prevent but there was really no need for that yellow.
I would have subbed for Neymar before the injury, in fact after the second Brazilian goal
Scolari needs to go all in, he needs to make a bulk of changes in midfield, if he goes on clinging to Oscar, Fred and co. for the entire 90, we’re going out and I’ll be blaming him rather than the injury to our best player and talisman.
Henrique and Paulinho should not start against Germany, particularly the former, he has zero international experience and is bound to have defensive lapses, we cannot afford that against a side like Neurmany.
I think we need to go with 3-5-2, with Fred being dropped, Oscar dumped for Hernanes, who also offers defensive width and is far better in the creativity domain. Hulk at CF. Maicon retained and Willian playing behind Hulk.
I refuse to label Brazil underdog at home to anyone. Even with TS out, our back 4 is still better than Germany’s back 4 assuming Scolari starts the right players. In midfield, I am confident with Fernandinho as I think he’s as good as anyone in Germany’s mid. However, I am not too confident about the other players in the middle. Gustavo and an inspired Paulinho(I know I am asking a lot) would even things out in the center. What I am mostly worry about though is our attack. Even with Neymar there, no one up top was scoring. Now Neymar is not there, things seem even more gloomy.
As you said, this is when Scolari needs to go all in. The semifinal in itself is like a final. It’s quite clear Fred will not score unless it’s a tap in and Oscar’s ability to create has abandoned him recently. This is when Scolari should truly make use of players like Willian, Bernard and Hernanes.
As an aside, Brazil’s current situation highlights the fact the only throw away selection of a WC team should be the third GK. After that, any player selected by a coach should be done with the idea that the particular will play. Injuries and suspensions can be chain reactions. We can use Gustavo’s suspension as an example. It not only forced Fernandinho to be a DM but it also meant bringing Paulinho back into the lineup.
fracture in 3rd lumbar vertebra: please see the image
I think that we need not discuss this very depressing and emotional issue in such
details. Yes there could have been much more damage but thankfully it did not.
After Ronaldinho and Kaka Neymar is the hope of he future for the Selecao and for football. Lets stop this dark discussion please.
Given your track record for successful predictions I’m going to go on a limb and say that you are exaggerating.
in severe pain:
pray for him
Argentine will be out today by Belgium :
aregentine 0 Belgium 3
ur prophecy did not work for Brazil. What makes you think we ll believe this one, ALI?
yes iam wrong in all my prediction
but iam 100 percent correct till now on three :
1.. Scolari : is the worst coach
2.. Brazil will not win the cup
3.. iam machine: but far better than many
here : although alot do not like my comments
but many like it:
for sure better than you :
only repeating what B.MATT said :
Fred is beast
Jo : the best backup for Fred
Paulinho : the best box to box
u are just repeated : please use your mind
any one who said this is the best 23 players
one of two : either he did not know football
he is shadow B.MATT: HA HA
why we lost in 1998 ?
in 2010 ????
of course you do not know :
the answer is :
Ronaldo : had fits : could be epilepsy
i.. Zagallo did not select the best true NO9
brazil has : Romario : he said came from injury
ii..Zagallo play with unfit : at least Romario can play at the final : goal machine:
exactly like Fred and Jo:
or at least play with : the Animal
i do not mean to play with you : ha ha :
Edmundo : in brazil called the animal
in 2010 :
Dunga : has no backup:
when Elano and Rameres : absent in
netherlands: we lost
now we are going to lose for poor selection :
no backup :
i repeated it : assume :
Mirinda+ F. Luis+ Fernando Reges+Coutinho+
Ferminho + D.costa + Damiao
in this 23 players : what will be our situation to
face Germany :
Brazil depend only on one player to win the
Scolari is a big donkey
Just for the record…I like your comments.
No surprises there..
Ali please remove these pics. This is insulting to the quality of this blog.
We should also stop name calling from all sides. Lets discuss football and the Selecao here.
OUR BOSS BLACK MATT
PLEASE DELETE THESE PICTURES
What does that mean?
ha ha ha
you are smart :
vertebral fracture can cause paraplegia :
this is what paraplegia mean :
paralysis of both lower limbs
u are very clever
Neymar has a fractured vertebrae, not a spinal cord injury. Implying that he has a 2% chance of recovery is disingenuous.
i told it is benign fracture of 3rd lumbar
vertebra : no neurovascular bundle injury:
neuro = nerves including cord
vascular = blood vesseles
please read what i wrote in 4 conecutive comments
I am not responsible for keeping track of all of your nonsensical posts in the hopes that they’ll make sense. You have a picture of a sitting dog in a post about paraplegia ffs.
This is what I want to see x Neurmany
that would be amazing!
Scolari will never drop fred..
“Fred Snow, I’m Phil Scolari’s Bastard”..
wow Colombians are more sore losers than the argentines!
Brazils Ronaldo and Italy’s Favio Cannavaro on the Neymar Injury and Zunigas challenge.
FIFA investigating the incident.
I happen to have a few colombian friends. And, their reaction to yesterday’s game is quite disappointing:
1-“Brazil cheated, we should have won it”. I’m still wondering how this is possible. Colombia didn’t play the way they did against Uruguay, IMO. Yes Brazil (especially Fernandinho, who should have been booked) had a plan for J. Rodriguez but Colombians did to. Especially the second half, they turned quite nasty. Ask Neymar,
2-“The referee was corrupted. Brazil shouldn’t believe that they beat us. It’s the Spanish referee who did”. Didn’t the referee granted them, rightly so, a penalty?
3-on the now famous picture of Neymar agonising on the ground:” Cry Neymar, that’s what you are known for”.
Yes, it is disappointing. However, I assure you most on this blog will be complaining just the same if/when Brasil loses. It’s the nature of being a fan/irrational. Just look at how much we complain about refs, nasty opposition, etc.. and WE HAVE YET TO LOSE.
thats true. but i personally would never be glad a player got injured. sure we blame refs and rigged matches but never butt hurt bashing other friends teams lol we are real brazil fans<3
Because the refs have largely been incompetent for either side. Other than the Fred penalty I don’t think we received any favours.
Brasil was actually royally screwed over in rest of the matches. Against Chile, Hulk’s goal should’ve stood (it hit his shoulder). Plus, the Chileans and Colombians should’ve gotten more cards for their assaults on Neymar
its sad to see how many people are soo immature about a game. i mean yes there is passion, but losing is losing and a human being getting seriously hurt and being happy about it is almost inhumane oh well. we’ve shown haters again and again that we can overcome!
It was an ugly game, really, with too many hard fouls that actually got worse an worse as the game went on.
I holld the ref responsible for letting things get out I hand
Against Germany I hope that Brazil will play with proper 11 players. Which means that Fred must be dropped. Anything but Fred will do. I will take even Paulinho as a striker.
I agree in principle. Yesterday, even as Paulinho played a MUCH better game you could tell his confidence was lacking. He seemed very tentative on the ball. I felt bad for the guy
I felt bad for Scolari’s blind trust.
You know, I dabbled with the notion of Paulinho as striker for this occasion, since his size, power and relatively more mobility is preferred over ‘Fred the dead’ .
That idea is ridiculous, isn’t worth considering
Any idea within reason, that precludes Fred at this time IS worth tinkering with. Besides, the last time we excluded an and out striker, we did pretty week ( even though under Mano). Inserting workable mid fielders to negate Fred’s no show is definitely a better idea.
Hulk is playing more confidently. He’s making plays. Great opportunities. Both feet. Punks dudes with skill and muscle. But he’s cursed in a yellow shirt. You just know his ball won’t find net. But the chances are increasing by game. IF he can reverse the curse. He will score the goals to beat Germany. If the curse isn’t reversed Germany will win.
I wouldn’t hold my breath on Brazil beating Germany because of Hulk. He literally never scores for Brazil. However, we must note his best eve game for the national team came in a game where Neymar wasn’t playing. I am of course talking about the game vs. Denmark back in 2012 where he scored a couple of goals and looked very good.
I’m not holding my breath, which is why it will take the extraordinary to beat Germany. Unlikely, but not beyond the realm of possibilities.
I actually disagree. You are giving Germany too much credit. I think we are the best team Germany will have face so far and they haven’t really destroyed anyone except Portugal which was force to play with 10 men. Don’t get me wrong, we have less room for errors, i.e. we must score the first goal but I think if Scolari puts the right team on the field, we will beat them. After all, Brazil hasn’t lost a competive home game for 39 years and I don’t think that streak will stop on Tuesday.
The key is that we have to score. The whole scoring goals thing becomes quite complicated without Neymar
I don’t think they are as good as they were in 2002, 06, the past two Euros. Their defense is massively susceptible, their fullbacks aren’t convincing, they’re missing their best player [Reus]. It’s just Neur and Kroos I’m worried about. Muller should have his throat sliced, that whiny bitch.
I don’t think it’ll take the extraordinary to beat the Germans. It’ll take a lot of tweaking and tactical planning together with a multiple changes in the lineup, the latter part is where Felipao fails.
Anybody else will avoid watching the Argentina game while hoping Belgium defeats them?
I think I’ll be forced to (at least miss 2nd half). Promised kid I’d take her to Toys R Us. Good things often happen when I don’t watch important events.
I intentionally avoid watching Argentina games, can’t stand them. Well, I hope you missing the game will = them gringos being eliminated.
I always tell myself to do that. However, I watched the first half of the Switzerland game. Once the Swiss blew their opportunities in the first half, I turned it off.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEq4-F-SLH4 who remember this! we need this..now
funny how you only appear when Argentina score..GTFO..
He missed his exit.
Murphy’s law strikes again- Argentina not only playing without their best striker Aguero, but now , their third best player, Di Maria is also out..
Dang, Messi is unbelievable!! Twisting and turning with tons of Belgians crowding him..
Yes he is
What I fail to understand is this ” WHERE IS LUKAKU” – this was a guy who scored and assisted in both goals in the last match after coming off the bench, and he is rewarded by not starting today. The coach needs to investigated for such a glaring omission. Lukaku is the poor man’s Drogba .
That’s what I’m saying. I was really expecting to see him in the starting lineup today…
He didn’t do much since coming on.
Just shows that he’s from another planet.
You should immigrate there..
So, which formation and replacement would you guys like to see?
Why do these all assume that Fred should stay up front?
Maybe it’s because they know that there is absolutely no way that he is going to be replaced
None of the above. No Fred.
I’d probably go with the 4-4-2 with LG, Fernandinho,Paulinho, Oscar in the midfield diamond.
WHAT A CHANCE HIGUAIN!!!
Eden Hazard’s been one of the real disappointments of this World Cup.
Yes he has… And at one point, a lot of haters were saying that he is a much better player and young talent then Neymar… smh
Mostly those haters are Chelsea and European football fans!
He’s officially the flop of the tournament. He just got subbed out with 15 minutes left and his team needing a goal. Belgium as a whole has not been great this tournament.
Higuain misses a clear cut opportunity, why am I not surprised..?
Great run though
So our upcoming game against Germany would have been less stressful IMO, if we had included Firmino as an attacker/playmaker in lieu of Jo our Henrique. Still, with N10 out, Hulk will now have more room to breathe as there is an ever so subtle tension between he and N10. I Iike the fact that he (Hulk) is showing a little more willingness to go at people and I think he will be less restricted.
Hulk’s recent improvement correlates exactly with Neymar’s injury against Chile.
Plus, Hulk has looked decent when Neymar’s been isolated. IMO, Hulk should retain his starting berth, with Willian replacing Neymar and Oscar appearing centrally (as a playmaker) and Fred staying (Brasil doesn’t have better options than Fred).
Do you think it would be worth it to bring on Bernard and Jo instead of Willian and Fred? Jo’s mobility is better suited to the German back line, and Bernard understands him as well as anyone on the team.
Bernard doesn’t have the physicality (he’s definitely an option off the bench) and doesn’t play at the top level. On the other hand, Willian is an absolute workhorse. While Jo does offer mobility, his finishing is abysmal.
Jo core strength is a joke. I’m surprised he can stand still. He’d lose an aerial duel with Tyrion Lannister let alone the tall Germans.
Jo is the short for JOKE.
Hulk likes to feel important as in his time with AVB at Porto. If he gets into that frame of mind, he’ll do some damage I believe.
I’m not an Argentina fan (as I have clearly stated before), but I must give it to Sabella for making this Argentina team very defensively organized, given the dearth of real Argentinean defenders and individual defense talent and sub-par keeper (i.e. Romero) – having contained an attacking team like Belgium
Well to help Argintina’s case, Belgium hasn’t attacked well at all
I’m not trying to be rude here but fuck off..
Man, Boeder. I’m not trying to offend anyone. I’m just impartially observing this Argentina side.
Start a journal, write your impartial observations there, not on a Selecao blog.
All right, all right! I’ll tone it down!
You said that last time
With all due respect, the Belgians only looked impressive in their attacks against the US — by and large, their finishing has sucked. So far, I haven’t been overly impressed with the final phase of their attacks in this match either; and, besides the successful offside trap of the Argentines (which only emphasizes the naiveté of the Belgians), I wouldn’t give too much credit to Argentina either.
Have you watched Belgium play? They played one good game attacking wise and still managed to miss most of the chances they created. Belgium have been the most overrated team in this whole tournament.
My goodness. Courtois is as tall as the Eiffel Tower.
Let us just hope Holland wins their game so Argentina don’t end up playing Costa Rica.
I have to say they’ve been ridiculously lucky by the opposition or the showing of the oppositions they’ve faced. They need a reality awakening.
Actually, if Costa Rica beat Holland, having already gotten past four teams that have a combined 7 World Cups and two Euros, I think Argentina should be really, REALLY worried.
What a great miss by Messy 🙂
Yeah, true that!
He’s no Ronaldo when it comes to being one on one with the keeper. He’s one dimensional in the sense he always try to lob the keeper. I used to love when Ronaldo was one on one with a keeper. He always made the keepers look like fools.
And Romario too with his signature above the goalie flick
Amazing that Argentina hasn’t made it to the final since 1990! 24 years…
Belgium has a bright future… But this WC, they never really impressed IMO
I am not too sure about them having a bright future. They have some good players but they have a poor midfield and their defense is not that good. They might be good enough to qualify for major tournaments but I don’t see them ever making a real dent. This WC couldn’t have been set up better for them. They had a manageable group, a poor second round opponent and an Argentina team with a mediocre defense. Despite that, they only played one good game in which they still managed to miss 10+ good chances.
Messi MOM? Don’t be surprised, we have seen even worse from FIFA
Should be Higuain.
That is who it was. Shocking!
You know if he had scored that goal late in the game, they would have given it to him.
I don’t know.
Messi, just like Neymar, has yet to score in two elimination matches. But at least he is fully healthy and no one is chasing to kill him like had been the case with Neymar. Not to mention, lucky Messi gets to play two more games while poor Neymar is forced to watch.
True. I’ll be perfectly honest, Neymar has been unreal this tournament and has performed whenever called upon – he scored that integral penalty against Chile and his set piece delivery has resulted in a few more goals for Brasil!
Absolutely, totally agree!
Think about it, Argentina is yet to face a South American team.
If Brazil had faced the same opposition as Argentina did, Neymar would likely be playing still and with more goals scored.
I’m confident FIFA would impose a lifetime ban on anyone who dares strongly challenge Messi
I know the draw was random but it is frustrating seeing Argentina having a golden path to the semis. Wouldn’t it just be their luck if somehow Costa Rica beats Holland and they face the former in the semis.
I just said it below : Argentina is yet to face a South American opponent. Brazil has already faced two strong/ruthless sides.
And at the rate it is going, I wouldn’t be shocked if they get lucky and Costa Rica wins.
Lets hope LvG has other ideas tonight *group prayer*
You sure about the whole random thing. I wouldn’t be.
Even when Brazil has not been given preferential treatments, you still see haters saying they’re getting help from the refs. Now imagine if Brazil and Argentina were switched groups. Brazil wouldn’t have had to face a legit team until the semis. Argentina I am sure wouldn’t have beaten both Chile and Colombia.
There was one significant NON RANDOM event which I would argue helped Argentina. That was the last minute backroom rule change which changed the way the final euro selection was placed. By original rules France should have been in the slot that Italy fell into instead. That would have put Itaiy where France was, Italy really got screwed by this, and its quite possible that an Italy in the France slot would have done a lot more damage. Recall Itally looked great against England but could not handle the steady diet of games in the hot northeast.
Sadly i think the rule change was probably some Platini favor payback …
Belgium played like they sniffed Helium, and does not deserve to progress at all. They spent the majority of the game trying to out ‘chess’ Argentina instead of going for the jugular. Brazil does not get that from most teams. Teams are always keen on getting our scalps from minute one.
Agreed, I thought they would be better than this.
Agreed. Brazil always receives the best effort of their opposition. It’s crazy… But that is also why I like the opportunity now with Brazil going in as underdogs against Germany.
The dark horse teams who have never really been in the mix for a Cup (Belgium, Colombia) both looked overly impressed by their opponent, and out of their element at the start, and took an entire half to get with it, but not before it was too late, and they had both conceded (early on mind you), and began fighting to get back in it.
I think we saw, in both matches, the advantage of having a “history,” and I thought that both Brazil and Argentina took smart advantage of that by being aggressive from the get go.
The next matches are a different story, and the only advantage is a “continental / home” one, which also needs to be made use of.
I picked Germany and Argentina in the final at least a couple of years ago, and while neither have looked as imposing as I thought they would, I see no reason to sway from my prediction other than my support for Brazil, who has also gotten as far as I though they would.
The wild card, for me is Holland, though, truth be told, they came very close last time, and since I really can’t stand either Holland or Argentina, my dreams would come true if Brazil can find a way to reach the final and destroy either one of them there.
Here’s to hoping….
We are only slight underdogs according to Vegas. As depressed as I was last night, I feel more hope today that the Seleção comes together and rises to the moment. I’d leave to hear others’ thoughts!
I don’t know how I should feel – Brasil is finely in the semis, but have lost Neymar (for the whole world cup) and TS for the match against Germany. The Germany match will be a tight one, and Brasil must play very intelligently with a very tight defense.
I agree. It is very important to score first!
Same here! It seemed so gloomy yesterday. So much so that we even forgot that we are in the SF! But after the dust settled I started to see the big picture and I am very hopeful (see my top 10 reasons below on why Brazil can beat Germany)
Brazil will win
Hopefully you’re right. Just like your prediction against Colombia, I hope this match goes in the favor of Brasil, without any bumps.
Messi is playing in his 3rd World Cup and he is yet to score a goal in the elimination round:
-In 2006, Argentina reached the QF and Messi came as a sub in the 16th round match vs. Mexico and didn’t score. He didn’t play in the QF game against Germany.
-In 2010 he played in the round of 16th against Mexico and QF against Germany and failed to score in both. In fact, as some of you may know, he failed to score completely in that World Cup
-In the 2014 World Cup in Brazil, Argentina is already through to the SF and he failed to score in the 16th round against Switzerland and the QF against Belgium.
But the good news for him, he has two more games in this World Cup at least to break this ugly streak.
btw he was horrible today apart from 1 pass in 1st half…he looks so slow and can’t seem to shift gears like he used to…but bet they give him the golden ball for best player anyway
ps ….never compare him to maradona again…anybody!!!
But come on, he scored against Iran in the last minute , what else do you want??? 😉
exactly …iran …last min…genius….lol
‘Slow’ is the keyword!
If there’s a time to step up, it’s now. I think he’ll do it.
Not only is Germany yet to play against a South American opponent this WC, they will be playing against THE South American opponent. They will be facing a motivated, hard core, angry, determined Brazil that finally looked set to impose themselves in this WC against Colombia. We all know that Neymar was the spirit of this team. He made things happen, he got the crowd into the game, he embraced the pressure, opportunity and the moment… But the heart and soul of this team is D. Luiz imo. It seems that he makes this team click, he pushes them forward, he rallies them together while at the same time seems immune to the pressure of winning a WC. I’d be more worried if he was the one set to miss the Semi than Silva. I believe it will be a very hard match against Germany and may end up being a great tactical battle between the 2 coaches but the spirit of the Selecao, without Neymar now, will and must grow even closer together and as a team they will conquer. And when they reach the finals, I believe they will brush away whoever their opposition are. VAMOS BRASIL!!!!!!!!
VAMOS BRASIL!!!! Let’s hope the spirit of Ayrton Senna also motivates this team and takes them to the next level!!
Luiz has been the true MONSTRO of the cup.
Back to the Zunigia tackle on Neymar. The more I watch it, the more I am convinced that it was an intentional attempt to cause harm. Now Zunigia is offering his first born with apologies because he senses a certain backlash. Prior to the tackle on N10, he viciously stepped on Hulk’s knee, lucky for him being as thick as he is, he was able to shake that off.
I think it was intentional, but still a “normal” play by rough soccer foul standards. I blame the ref 100%. He completely lost control of the game. FDinho should have carded early for a series of reckless challenges. Once it became apparent that there was no card in-store for FDinho it was on between both teams. At the time I was happy because I didn’t want to lose Fdinho for the next match. Now in retrospect, I wish he would have been carded. The game would have been cleaner and Brasil would likely still have Neymar
Supposedly there is video of play just before the FOUL where he was already hyper agitated and agressive
Costa Rica is looking quite decent considering their lack of “well-known stars”
IMO this brazil game can be won physically just like vs spain. germany are kinda like spain for example 1 holding mid, attacking minded, average defence and weak physically. brazil should play on counters .
my line up
fred (a must)
this is freds game just like vs cameroon.
maybe hulk for oscar.
which games did dante and luiz start together in?
Okay, I am watching ESPN. But who the hell are these commentators? They’ll talk about everything else under the sun, but not even mention which player has or is getting the ball.
Watching ESPN was your FATAL MISTAKE.
Heh! Good one.
Univision is your friend. Don’t speak Spanish? Still better than ESPN. ESPN’s broadcast is ill informed and completely kills the passion of the game
Thanks, Saul. But I’m watching a live stream. And ESPN gives me the best resolution.
Hearing Di Maria is out of the WC with an injury.
Holland is smiling right now!
Are they? CR is giving them all they can handle
Defensively though, Saul. The Ticos can’t seem to penetrate the Dutch defense that effectively, and when they do, they can’t finish. If the Dutch keep in piling the pressure, they might eventually squeeze something past Navas.
I hope so. I’m tired of Argentina playing the Sisters of the Blind
Wow, quite strong words!! But, I agree with you.
That is a big blow for Argentina, more than Aguero.
Tevez would have been handy now coach, eh?
Robben’s such a beautiful diver!
I am for underdogs but not in the semis. We really don’t need a team like Costa Rica there. Today, they really haven’t tried to win the game.
Robben might not lift the WC trophy, but he should be awarded an Oscar.
Lol get that diving scum out of the world cup.
Even when he is actually fouled, there is such theatricality about his flopping fall.
That diving scum might be our only hope from Argentinian scum seeing the final. Oh wait, this is Roberto…..lol
First thought into my head. What Brazilian fan would want Costa Rica to face Argentina?
I’m a CONCACAF fan since I live in the region and I love underdogs but Holland must win. Argentina surely can’t have it that easy
I love CONCACAF teams and simply cannot forgive the Dutch for 2010 against Brasil!
Extra time, but I don’t see it going Costa Rica’s way. Their legs are gone and the defense is losing shape and looking ragged. If they can somehow last to tiebreakers, perhaps; but that seems extremely unlikely.
I cannot believe that Holland still did not win. If they don’t make it and Argentina gets to play CR for the semis they will have officially have gotten the easiest way tote final
just got home and did not read thru blog, have u already discussed Willian possibly injured HIS BACK in training today?
No. First I heard was from you
seems i am official bearer of bad news …sorry. Wow this Copa has DRAMA AND MORE DRAMA AND MORE DRAMA
I blame you for this
honestly, i spent much of the day away from TV on a day trip, and on the bus i kept thinking ..”did Neymar really hurt his back or did i dream that”, i mean it is unbelievable in some ways …that kid must have some wild karma.
How about you start day dreaming two more wins in the next week for Brasil
i have not given up hope. Its a team event and this can be a storybook ending. Somebody (or somebodies) from Brazil can enter the exalted history of the Selecao if they step up now.
Paging Manee Garincha
exactly the parallel situation, pity we have no single Grrincha, but maybe we have 2 half Garinchas that will step up together.
i accept responsibility
No… Just saw it on Globo
I think he’ll be alright
JESUS CHRIST another key player injured/missing!
Holland will eventually score.
That’s the hope
PENALTY – stupid Europeans getting favoritism once again!
No penalty imo
Clipped his legs!
It’s not a penalty unless the ref says so. And refs are always right 😉
No penalty: the fall wasn’t Robben-esque enough.
The only thing stranger than what has already happened in this strangest of cups would be for Fred to be the hero in the semis …
True, hopefully Fred can start running a little more behind the defense, start playing some smart passes around the box and hit a good shot in the top left/right corner of the net.
honestly i don’t expect much more from Fred than to scuff in a rebound for a goal, but even that would be immense. He has to rediscover his poacher zen
I want him to rediscover his Lyon self when he was at the peak of his powers!
he will need a regression hypnotist for that
Robben is a 1st class diver, but he’s one of the few who knows when not to dive also.
we dub thee ” Wiley Robben”
Faulty call by the ref – wasn’t a handball.
Same scenario happened against Holland in their group stage match vs Australia. I feel like the referees don’t understand the rule.
Ball-to-hand vs hand-to-ball?
That’s basically it, but every time the ball is blasted at a player’s hand you’ll see the appeals for a handball and I’ve seen the ref give the foul on several occasions.
I feel the only exception to that rule is if a player is sticking his arms out to try and block the shot. It’s still ball-to-hand but the player has the intent of blocking the shot with his hand/arm.
As in increasing the defensive cover/area? I also feel the referees are highly inconsistent on handball rule. That has a lot to do though with how much referees believe in a certain situation the player could have enough time to move his arm out of the way.
Yes, if the player extends his arms beyond a reasonable degree during a shot in an attempt to block the shot, like a goalie. A lot of these calls have to do with context.
I don’t think a player can move his arm out of the way faster than the shot. In Costa Rica’s case, their player had his arm tucked to his body and was still called. The only way it would have missed him is if he was an amputee or if he dodged the shot and let it simply go to goal. Similarly, the penalty given to Australia happened when a cross was delivered, Blind turned to shield his face and it caught his extended elbow, which usually extends when a player is running. There’s little players can do to further avoid such a situation and the intent is clearly not to handle the ball, but the fouls are somehow being called.
I myself find it silly that David Luiz hides his arms behind his back when defending crosses, but it seems to be the right idea given that the referees are so keen on calling non-existent handballs.
That was not a penalty (the Blind handball vs Australia). But unfortunately these type of calls will only encourage people like David Luiz to put his arms behind his back
My mistake, it was Daryl Janmaat who was penalized. And I agree, FIFA needs to get the right calls. I’m sure some clever players will begin attempting to shoot the ball at the defender’s hand/arm to get a penalty or free kick.
Lots of people have done that. Look up Roberto Baggio’s penalty vs Chile in 1998 world cup. He kicked the ball right at the Chilean’s arm to win the PK.
I have never seen Holland win a penalty S/O in my life. I’m scared for them even (especially?) against Costa Rica.
Euro 2004 they’ve won against Sweden.
LVG going all-in for the goal. I love his steez
who wants to see penalties?
A Netherlands victory is my top priority.
While I want to see the Argentines facing the Dutch in the semis, a part of me wants to see Navas in action in a tie-breaker.
Navas is a monster!
This WC has seen some amazing keeping: Navas, Ochoa, Howard, even JC.
Don’t forget Neuer, and even Claudio Bravo to a lesser extent.
How about Eneyama?
He is. He has made his point. Now it’s time to do the right thing and let the Dutch score
To be fair he did have the crossbar and the posts saving him 3 times.
There is one possible angle that i am not sure you guys have discussed already re Neymar’s absence. It could set the stage for Hulk being the #1 option for the first time. I’ve often thought that part of Hulk’s underperformance with Selecao is that he is used to being the #1 option on offense with his clubs for several years now (tho he did share with Falcao before that). I’ve thought that he has been a pretty poor fit when Neymar and Fred have been the preferred scoring options, and he is supposed to be more of a facilitator. Maybe, just maybe, if he is the first option he will play as inspired as he did vs Mexico but will actually score this time.
This is time for Oscar to step up and be more of an architect… and, yeah, for some of the other front men to redeem themselves….
But, whoever steps in for Silva also has a lot to live up to.
As I wrote earlier, I think that there are strategies that could work, as well as reasons to criticize Scolari for not completing his roster better.
the is very true, Oscar clearly has been directed by Scolari (Oscar said so himself) to focus on defense till now. Maybe his instructions will change now
That should have been a red for Huntelar.
Once again, Europeans always get favors from the referees
Oh Roberto, we have so much in common except for the whole Argentina thing. I wish you’d see the error of your ways. We could make a great team, me and you.
The elbow to the head of the CR keeper?
For the moment, looks like subbing a forward for a defender was a really bad move
Dutch don’t trust the current goalie for PKs
My broadcast is calling the new goalie a pk specialist. We will see…
Well, let’s see. The Ticos looked pretty solid with their PKs. And Navas, injured or not, is a monster.
I think it would be hard to be sent in cold off the bench to be the hero
It’s more about mind games.
I guess he really was a specialist after all. That was crazy. Never seen anything like it
What a story, penalties!
NOOOO COSTA RICA Missed!!!
Argentina meet the Dutch
Two all-star semifinals. I’m disappointed that Costa Rica couldn’t quite pull it off against the Dutch. It would have been a hell of a story, and they would have pushed Argentina all the way in the semi.
I can’t agree with that. Teams like Costa Rica if they concede early or first, they will usually falter after that. Teams like Holland though, you still have hope they can make a comeback.
Eric, remember our discussion about Costa Rica quality on penalties? Different context, different result.
still incredible heroic performance by Costa Rica team. Hats off to them.
Didn’t disagree, dude. In fact, I was commenting more on Brazil’s difficulty with them, as I said at the time. As for CR / Holland, I guess that match should give anyone hope (similar to U.S. / Belgium in a way), where it is proven, once again, that even if one team dominates the field of play, there is no guarantee that they will score, or even pull out the victory in the end.
In Brazil’s case, I’m guessing that fans won’t be that thrilled with a victory if Germany outplays us on the pitch… just one of the crosses Brazil has to bear in order to live up to their legacy in the sport.
Well, it’s the usual suspects again in the semis. Let’s see how it goes.
nothing to see here , just a stupid gringo
NO WAY!!!!!!! Link please
my bad.. just CBF will appeal … SORRY SORRY, i’m giving myself a red card.
i read too hastily … wish i could blame the beer, but just poor portuguese
Major red card bro. My confusion over yellow card is nothing compared to that
banishment to Siberia? … change my handle to ALI_Rules?
u are so rude
u are not a ???????????????????
true, but i don’t spam the airwaves with “Just Call Dude_br” commercials … do i?
dude_br, you’re not pulling our leg, are you? He’s really back?
plz refresh …not pulling legs, just stupid
LVG has major guts. He’s the Tony Larussa of football. He subbed off his starting keeper at the end of extra time for the backup and it worked out. Regardless of who wins the WC, he should be coach of the tournament.
Yeah, true – he made some bold decisions and they paid off so far!
Yes, but subbing out a defender in favor of Huntelar almost cost them the game in ET
Yeah, but the Dutch got really lucky during the penalty shootouts.
I’m not sure about pks, but CR almost scored a few times in 2nd ET
Yeah, it was rough blow for Costa Rica, but they certainly won my respect (more than the USMNT, whose valor was mainly down to Tim Howard).
You are somewhat correct in that sense but I never blame a manager going for the win. Why leave it to pk shootouts vs a team that you know you are better than? By the way, this is not taking out Thiago Silva and bringing in Jo. Huntelaar is a top striker and the defender he replaced was quite poor throughout the game. Plus, I don’t think it’s necessarily subbing out the defender. The Dutch were going to go for it anyways, so you might as well throw on a striker.
I just saw that apparently our 31 fouls yesterday is the most we’ve conceded in any World Cup game between 1966 and now. (I’m presuming that records don’t exist for 1962 and earlier.) Colombia fouled us 23 times, for what it’s worth.
The ref was blowing the whistle for every little nude a Brazilian player did on a Colombian… Well that’s what I saw anyways
I saw that too, other than a couple of blatant fouls by Fernandinho.
Despite Holland’s victory, Argentina continues to benefit from good fortune. Robben is suspended for semis
Why would he be suspended? He didn’t get a yellow today.
He didn’t have a yellow card entire tournament.
That was funny lol.
Is it true?
You shouldn’t scare people like that.
back to speculating on positive storybook developments … how about Dante scoring a header against his club teammates? wouldn’t that be better than fiction?
You’re assuming Dante plays instead of Henrique
If Henrique plays, I’ll doubt Scolari’s intelligence (no insult to Henrique’s ability).
Dante’s play could end up being a key either way….
Just saw this on ESPN. Three sides of the same argument: the neutral position, then two extremes.
Sorry Zetona, which argument?
Reload the page, it should appear.
i think the only thing that can definitively be said is that next to the eventual winners, the fans and players of Costa Rica will probably be the most satisfied with this copa. For the four semi-finalists it win it all or feel awful.
True, they made their people and country proud!
would be amazing for every BR fan attending the semi-final to wear a #10 Neymar shirt …then again, most already are.
That’s something the team has to make use of and rally around.
I believe this team is tougher than many people believe, especially on the defensive end.
My main question is who is going to lead? I see candidates at the back, but what about the attack?
Can Germany be held without a goal? And who will step forward and be a threat for us?
I can see Oscar being called more into the setup role, but who can finish up front against a team like Germany?
Will Fred or Hulk become who they were supposed to be, and if not, who else has the skills and confidence to produce without Neymar and Silva leading the way?
Luiz has shown he is up to it if the opportunity comes his way, and I am even starting to believe in JC as our Keeper, especially if it comes down to penalties. But who else has it in them to make the winning play?
I could name quite a few on the other side, and don’t think that Reus’ absence has hurt them nearly as much as Neymar’s and Silva’s has hurt us. Aside from fighting like an injured animal, I sincerely hope Scolari has a plan, and that it involves using our superior speed.
Nice to hear Brazillians are still very confident.
Funny how so much of pre cup debating is always over which strikers to choose … But so often it seem defenders are scoring decisive goals . Off top of head
Materazi 2006 finals
Puyol 2010 semi
Silva luiz 2014 quarters
Hummels 2014 quarters
Guys, I am getting a headache just trying to figure the best eleven to face Germany. At this point, I don’t care if we are playing with 5 Freds and six Jos. WE ARE WINNING THIS WORLD CUP. STRAIGHT UP!
Not to scare you guys , just heard Willian picked up an injury in training today , the result of a tackle from Hernanes. Team doctor said it shouldn’t affect him for game against Germany
Ok, is it just me or is this not the first time we hear Hernanes causing an injury to a teammate during training?
saw video, hernanes did nothing
Oh god 🙁
Im telling you all this is a blessing in disguise!! With neymar most likely not being able to penetrate the German defense due to his…skinnyness ajaja..we will have a better option (willian) who in my humble opinion have similar styles. obviously he is no neymar but not far off. also, they will play their hearts out for neymar…he is the baby of the team and the team will play like never before for him! we got this!!! 2-0 Brazil!
The one plus of Willian over Neymar is that Willian will bring in a lot more defensively. The Germans passing game is difficult to defend against. Outnumbering is the best form of defense for that type of play.
that too! willian is way more defensively minded than Neymar, and has more strength too. we will miss the skill, but maybe we can unite as a unit and beat these Germans.But one thing is for sure….Fred NEEDS to be dropped, like we all know this…but its a must…need for suree !
Do u think Oscar will play much better in centre?
honestly i really like oscar on the wings, but personally i think he would play way better in the centre now that neymar isnt there. he will HAVE to step it up
Fellow bloggers, let’s think impartially for a minute, what are Brasil’s true chances against Germany (in the light of Neymar’s injury and Thiago Silva’s injury). I personally that Brasil will be able to squeak out as victors, in a rough match that could go to penalties.
I take it as a 50-50 sort of game…may be 60-40 for Brazil. I count on Brazil’s defense for that. These type of games are more about defense than they are about attack. In all likelyhood….. The winning goal (either ways) is not going to be a carefully constructed beauty. It is going to be a set piece, scrap goal, poachers goal (Fred, Klose) or some long range effort…etc. all Q finals goals were like that. I give Brazil an edge for that type of goal. Germans try to be a little too elaborate which is unlikely to work.
Here’s what I see probability wise: 60-40, Germany
1-0 Germany (20%)
0-0 with edge to Germany in penalties (20%)
1-0 Brazil (15%)
0-0 edge to Brazil i penalties (10%)
2-0 Germany (10%)
2-1 Germany (10%)
2-1 Brazil (5%)
2-0 Brazil (5%)
FiveThirtyEight has Brazil at a 73% chance of beating Germany. Granted they gave us a 78% chance against Chile and a similar number against Colombia, and I don’t think they’re accounting for Neymar and TS.
I’d say 60-40 Brazil.
On a sobering note, I hope that Neymar can come back from this scary injury, and continue his ascent toward becoming one of the very best players in the world.
I’ve seen tremendous growth from him as a player in the past year, but, at the same time, I wonder whether his body will hold up to the all the abuse he is getting?
Kid better start muscling up now. If there is one thing to learn from Pele (there are a lot) is that a player must have grit, be muscular and scrawny and show real determination whenever on the ball, to make the best decisions for himself or for the team.
Pretty much everywhere I look except here, the consensus is that Brazil are the ones being favored by the refs in this World Cup. It’s a narrative that started after the first game, and every call that goes Brazil’s way further confirms Brazil as the aggressors and the team that isn’t seeking to play football. We have been cynical and shaky far too often in this tournament, no doubt, but it still saddens me to see the world paint Brazil as the villains of this tournament, and at times paint their opposition as able to do no wrong.
All I can hope is that this is the sort of mentality on which Scolari feasts. It’s Brazil against the world, and we’re being written off in much the same manner as before the Confederations Cup. It’s time to give Germany one hell of a rude awakening.
That’s really low from the opposition. But, if Felipao can channel this negative energy for Brasil into a positive and make each player give 200% in each touch, pass, through-ball – that might be the factor that may result in Brasil advancing to the final!
I’m not myopic enough in my Brasil fandom to ignore they likely have received some home cooking like every other host in the history of the WC. I’m sure that Spanish ref with the reputation to not card was selected to protect Neymar & Silva. However, all the conspiracy theories are just way too over the top and ignore facts (as all conspiracy theories do). If things were as fixed as many claim:
– Argentina would not have been given a golden path to semis
– Neymar’s assailant would have at least been called for a foul
– Hulk’s goal against Chile would have counted
– Neymar would have never been carded against Croatia
– Zuniga would have seen red after targeting Hulk’s knee
– and on and on
I am concerned about Willian. Will he be 100% fit against Germany?
I think he should be fine – didn’t look too severe.
Regardless of the outcome on Tuesday, I’ll be massively proud of this team. Joachim Low has had 10 years (2004-2014) to acclimatize himself to the German NT and to experiment with it (2 years assistant to Klinsmann). He has been lucky that the transition from 1 generation to the next has been largely smooth (from the likes of Ballack to Schweinsteiger).
On the contrary, Brasil’s transition has been WAY more turbulent in the same time frame (2004-2014). During that period, Brasil has had 4 coaches with players and balon d’or winners constantly declining in form and motivation. After the 2005 confeds cup, Ronaldinho and Adriano’s form declined exponentially with a lack of replacements (who could offer as much quality as them). Another seismic shock to this side was the retirement of Ronaldo, and the dearth of true strikers in his vein (Adriano’s colossal fall from grace began right when Ronaldo retired) began to adversely impact the tactical setup of this side. As the years flew by and coaches began to experiment with their favorites while omitting more favorable options, Brasil began to lose direction. But, Felipao has come a long way from the ignominy that Mano’s side experienced in the Olympics (2012) and Copa America (2011). Let that sink for a minute, these tournaments were only 2-3 years ago and about 8 of the players who were on the squad for each tournament have been replaced or relegated to the bench ever since Felipao has come to the helm.
Not to make this a thesis, all I’m saying is that Brasil has improved A LOT and this experience will be massive for the youngsters on this squad or players who have 1 more world cup in them (David Luiz, Marcelo, Paulinho, Oscar, Ramires, Luiz Gustavo, Willian, Bernard, Hulk, and Neymar). Even Germany didn’t win in 2006 as hosts, and that experience served as a learning opportunity for the DFB and they began a project which included the establishment of an ‘identity’ or a style for German football at the club level and the NT. This world cup can serve the same purpose for Brasil and will hopefully pave the way for more world cup wins after our 6th title (which Brasil should be able to pull off this year).
Sorry man, but it seems you are giving a eulogy. This is not the time to start reflecting. Brazil is at home and still the most balanced team left in the tournament and should expected to still win the WC next Sunday and I will be heavily disappointed if that doesn’t happen.
I’m with Canteev on this, BUT I hope that the Brasileiro Campeonato will make an effort to mold the Brasilian style to feed the Selecao with quality players that can all relate to a similar style. I doubt it will happen though. The thing I liked about Neymar playing for Santos was everyone seemed interested in the Campeonato Brasileiro and good Brasilian players were either opting to stay longer or come back from Europe. Now that he’s left, it seems like the league has dipped in “credibility”. I know it doesn’t offer as much as Europe, but it’d be nice if it were considered a good plan B for players instead of being a place only for new players and those to retire. I know Ajax has the luxury of being able to play Champions league, but I admire the Netherlands for having so many key players that play for either Ajax, PSV, or Feyendoor.
Apart from his tremendous inspiration and presence Neymar has
been heavily marked in the last 3 games and not allowed to play his own
game. Even then Brazil pulled through. True that Neymar has been
delivering the accurate set pieces and always dangerous in free kicks.
Willian can also deliver set pieces and free kicks and David Luiz and
Hulk are also free kick specialists. With Oscar central and Hulk and
Willian on the wings ( maybe later Bernard) the German defence will not
have it easy as they lack pace especially Boateng needs to be targeted by Willian with his pace. Brazil has played several games without Neymar and played well. Germany is not
playing its best soccer with a laboured win against France.
We also pulled through without Gustavo. So now we have got back Gustavo and lost Silva but unlike Gustavo we have specialsit CBs like Dante ( here i would have loved Miranda to fill in but thats not to be ) who knows Germans well. So our defence assuming Maicon plays is expected to hold.
The real issue is the German midfield which is formidable. They are physical strong and technically gifted. So we must have Fernandinho in a box to box role with Hernanes ready to fill in for Oscar and Bernard for Willian if it is needed.
I think that Brazil stands a very good chance against Germany. For Scolari its do or die.
If he still does not change from Paulinho and Fred and Ramires then it will be very difficult against the Germans.
Especially Fred he is not only static but breaks up movements with his poor passing. We simply cannot have Fred and play the workd cup semis with 10 players against Germany missing our two best performers. Scolari has to take a call on Fred because he has not fired
for now 6 games and is a negative influence in the attack with his positioning and poor passing. He is not even playing a holding role of a point man and missing almost all aerial battles.
I would favour this line up of 9 + either Hernanes/Bernard depending on the formation
Maicon ( RB) – Luiz-Dante-Marcelo
Fdinho- Gustavo- Oscar ( CAM)
Willian ( LW)- Hulk ( RW/CF)
Hulk ( CF)
u mean : WILLIAN BERNARD
It depends on the formation maybe hernanes as an extra midfielder.
Solid analysis, GS.
Oscar is being asked to play in a defensive role. This somewhats explains his absence from the attack.
Is Scolari overly cautious? I think Oscar is the best midfielder with simple passing currently on the team, it is a mistake that he has to be more defensive.
This is just a convenient excuse. I don’t blame Oscar if he’s not active on the attacking end, however I don’t see how that means he should kill all counters either by lingering on the ball and making poor passes. Oscar is no classic #10 but he’s not having a good tournament.
I dont think Oscar has been absent from attack. He is present most of the times but does not do much. I really do think that Mourinho or someone should convert Oscar into a defensive mid. He is just not creative enough.
Even if he plays well the rest of the world cup, I dont think Oscar should be the playmaker for Brazil going forward.
Let me analyze a man for man between Germany and Brazil assuming ( hoping fervently) that Fred does not play.
Boateng- Marcelo Boateng is slow and error prone under pressure his flank needs to be targeted by a pace Willian and Marcelo.
Lahm -Maicon needs help from Right Wing ( Hulk / Bernard )
Mertesacker-Hummels: Hulk through the middle ( Oscar Hulk Fernandinho/Hernanes )
Schweinsteiger: Needs to be tragted by a tough well built DM with technical abilities ( I would prefer either Hernanes or even Paulinho for this)
Ozil: Marcelo + Dante/Luiz
Muller: D. Luiz Dante +
Goetze: Maicon + Hulk/Bernard / Dante ?luiz
Overall we should be able to match the Germans but will need tracking back by wingers and Oscar in a fully central offensive position.
its not that straight as german doesn’t play with classic 9 all-time.rather we may see them playing with false 9
No I just compared the strengths man to Man not formations or tactics. Germany plays a false 9 and muller is not a cf.
No I was just doing a very naive man for man comparisons without going into formations or tactics. In this Brazil seems to match up quite well with Germany.
Against France, Germany played with a back line of Lahm-Boateng-Hummels-Howedes and it looked much more secure than against Algeria, partly because of the opposition and partly because they played a deeper line. Boateng, in particular, should definitely be targeted, though.
The MCFC vs Bayern game at the Allianz – Fernandinho had a standout game against the MF of Muller, Kroos & Goetze. (This performance is 2nd imo to his Arsenal home performance where he also nullified Ozil)
With Garcia holding (playing the destroyer role), Fernandinho was in & about nicking the ball off the Germans frustrating them & instigating our counterattacks.
I’d stick with a Gustavo & Fernandinho pairing imo, but Oscar will have to vitally play centrally & help out in the central MF battle. Brazil cannot afford to be outnumbered against the Germans in MF.
Playing Willian who will track back and help press, along with Oscar will work to Brazils advantage to combat the likes of Kroos, Muller & Schweinsteiger.
nice post. post more
Did scolari ask for a replacement for Neymar? any news about this
i think he shd pick alan or any pure striker
It’s too late to call up any sort of replacement.
they have all been on the beach for weeks
No replacements are allowed after the tournament begins. In 2010 we lost Elano without replacements and our midfield suffered with Netherlands.
i fear,history repeats itself.in 2002,ballak was injured at final.
now its neymar 🙁
Ballack was suspended in 2002 final not injured.
Look! The very energy that you waste worrying about the worst, should be used believing for the best. Not hard at all.
lol…. exactly !!!
Their best player, Reus, is injured as well.
When did Marco Reus become Germany’s best player? Yes, he had a great season at Dortmund, but Thomas Muller, Philip Lahm and Bastian Schweinsteiger have always stood out to me as Germany’s best player.
Let me be more politically correct: *one* of their best players.
The point being that the “history repeats itself” motif is baseless as they are missing Reus and in 2002 were similarly missing Ballack as well, who was one of their best players at the time. In other words, you can argue that history is bound to repeat itself for or against our favour.
Do brazil players have the mental ability to turn into warriors?
It sometimes feels like David Luiz is the one with this characteristic.
I would say L. Gustavo too, but in a more introverted way.
Should they fight to win it for Neymar? I would say yes try and look at these kind of (disgusting)videos to to find the extra motivation
WTF! WTF! WTF! the ugly side of football. I’m Dominican and would translate but don’t think it is necessary. This is too much. On the other hand it shows a slice of the pie of the argentine football culture. They’ve not even faced Brazil yet are claiming, symbolically, to have beaten us. We’re gonna end their fucking world in the final should they get past Netherlands.
A Dominican that like soccer.
the best starting 11:
Maicon + D.L + Dante + Marcello
Fernandinho + Gustavo
reseves : Fred + Paulinho : just fans : nothing to do with
Rameres + Bernard + Alves ::: can be used as substitutes
: I predicted “”” :
Brazil : zero Germany : 6
please do not be angry
what i predicted is 100 percent wrong
from the machine:
do you hear :
it is abnormal to be normal in abnormal condition
we missed Neymar too much :
our only striker : and goal scorer
Fred cut our heart in pieces
Paulinho hurted us alot :
Scolari :::::: the killer : the donkey
Common man…where isDiego Costa in your line up?
farooq, why u so quiet lately? enjoying the cup?
It’s just that I’ve spent more time listening to you all…
unfortunately the donkey Scolari doe not choose
he is right : u think so :
1..Fred : the best ever true NO9
far better than Hugwin : Aregentine who replace
the injured Auguiro :
2.. Jo :; from half chance he used to score
this is verstile rouster
the best 23 players
good analysis from B. MATT
this is a joke
by the way now all over the world
do not know why Scolari :
choose Fred : Jo
even Dunga in Beinsport 2 : said :
this is not a striker at all:
Jo + Fred :
he added more in places for them even
they were 100 percent fit
only few agree : Fred and Jo were players
not good : even just player
+ B.MATT + his shadows
Carlos A. B: fed up
how i know ?? no need
Dante confirmed as Silva replacement
actually it was a commentator on TV. All i can find in print is Thiago Silva saying Dante is the natural replacement and Scolari saying that he will not play 3 CBs …
20,000 people waiting to greet Kaka as he will be loaned to Sao Paulo … Ganso, Kaka, Pato, Luis Fabiano, Kardek
Not really worth having all that talent on the same team when there’s no way they’ll all be able to play at the same time, is there?
maybe someone will be moved to another club, maybe Fabiano and or Pato or Ganso. Kardek and Kaka most likely to stay as they just arrived.
Admittedly, Fabiano is getting old. But they also have Dorlan Pabon, Ademilson, and Boschilia who can fill those spots.
yeah, lots of names
doctors say up to neymar being pain free in order to attend final in person.
Is there some sort of miracle where he could provide 30 minutes if we make it to the final?
By definition it would take a miracle for him to provide 30 minutes
After the quarterfinals, the latest iteration of the Castrol Index has man of the match David Luiz plunge from first to seventh in the overall rankings, while Karim Benzema, who I thought was fairly wasteful against Germany, is the new top man. This ranking system is fucked.
Fred is the 38th-best player at the World Cup with an 8.97 rating! How?!
pay no attention to these ratings, they will drive u crazy
These ratings/metrics only underscore the point that soccer is not at sport that can be quantified in any meaningful way. Sorry fantasy geeks, I know you all love to spend time at work analyzing numbers and thinking you’d be the next great GM or tactician if only you had the chance, but the truth is that these numbers are only there to generate more interest/clicks/views etc… from fans. And this message is coming from of all places, a professional statistician
I agree that these particular ratings are not meaningful, but surely there are ways to quantify the sport in a meaningful way? Aren’t we all quantifying Fred’s performance on some intuitive level?
Isn’t that what everybody told Bill James? Yet he had revolutionized baseball with sabermatrics and greatly improved Oakland’s chances of winning. Who’s to say that someone/something like that won’t happen in association football?
That’s the first thing I thought of as well.
All I know is that this someone has not occurred yet.
There are a bunch of advanced analytic statisticians having a big impact on basketball at the moment, with certain GMs making decisions based on their findings
I believe they are missing quite a bit, but their findings are having a big impact on the game at the moment.
I read about that too. Speaking of basketball, I have a question to ask. In your opinion, what’s the biggest difference between NCAA ball and NBA in terms of style and strategy and physicality?
Almost different games, though one of the ways “analytics” is effecting basketball is in emphasizing the “efficiency of possessions,” which is the emphasis of college coaches.
To get back to your question, International basketball is also very different, and falls somewhere in between the U.S. college and pro games in that it is more “fundamentals” and “set up” driven, and less free flow, which emphasizes speed and athleticism (among bigger and badder players), and is designed to “free up” the most talented players.
The rule differences accentuate this (fewer seconds to shoot, much further 3pt. line, etc.)
That said, the Spurs victory over Miami this past season is evidence that a different system, with a different strategy for success is in the works. The game in San Antonio is something of a hybrid between the International and NBA approaches to the game, and it has not only finally proved victorious, but is influencing numerous teams around the league, including my home team, the Golden Sate Warriors.
Well, I watch some NBA and a significant amount of International ball, but I have never seen a full college game. So thanks for your insight.
Even with sabermetrics, the sample size must be BIG for the causality to take effect. For example, classic sabermetric teams don’t perform well in the playoffs. Why? Because the there are too few games for the “law of averages” to take effect.
Of course, there are certain things that can be quantified reasonably well (possession, work rate, shots on target, etc), but that’s just going to get you to the surface of the onion. The whole point of quantification is to be able to make generalizable claims. The point of quantification within sports is to make generalizable claims that win championships. Unless a team/player plays in thousands of playoff settings that will likely not be possible. As a result, numbers are really getting you no more certainty than coaching/managing from the “gut.”
Believe me, I’m a numbers guy. My entire living is based on the empirical method and the belief that just about anything can be quantified. But that’s apples and oranges when compared to pseudo stat analysis you see in sports. 99% of the sports related numbers you see on websites are there just to generate more interest. It’s not real multivariate regression analysis in which you can abstract generalizable principles.
Yes, Oakland has not done well in the playoffs despite having a brilliant regular season record, but in league football, there are no playoffs to speak of, if a team has some certain statistical method to see certain patterns, aren’t they more likely to achieve success? I agree that cup competitions like world cup, FA cup, Champions league etc. the numbers are less useful.
Yes, the sabermetrics would help in a league setting. But, that’s one of the few sports related examples where it could help win a “championship.”
Any thoughts about the use of advanced analytics in basketball? I had a lively, ongoing debate with proponents during the last season, including one guy who is a statistician (a professor from New Zealand).
Having played basketball at a fairly high level, and followed the game since I was young, it has always been my contention that the “stats,” however advanced, only tell part of the story, and often give an erroneous account of the game when adopted as “the reality” of what has occurred.
I find them even less accurate when people use them to predict what will occur for an upcoming match or short series of matches.
Sabermetrics in sports is more useful on the business side of team management such as:
– not over paying for big names
– deciding when to pay for pricey vets vs signing younger, cheaper talent
– finding less heralded players that fit better into certain systems
In sum, the numbers will help a team get more bang for the buck and avoid incompetent management (often steered by unproven sport specific “myths”). By reducing the possibility for incompetent decisions, data driven decisions improve a teams odds of getting to the dance (or just being competitive with limited $$), they don’t really help capture the intangibles that are needed to get over the “hump” and win titles. Using the NBA as an example, data helps you avoid being the NY Knicks.
And also in being more like the Spurs, given that they have done all the things you talk about
True, in terms of consistently in playoffs. I think the rings are all Pop & Duncan
But as Duncan (and Ginobili) started over the hill a few years ago, the Spurs have actually gotten stronger, and one of their tactics is not to play anyone more than 30 minutes a game during the regular season, and only slightly more during the playoffs.
They have also been the masters of finding unsung, cheap but effective talent (both young and old) that fits their system.
Absolutely. I’m not sure how decisions are being made there but even if you could bottle the formula, I’d bet the farm that the results wouldn’t be the same without Pop
Wow, 7 Brazilians among the top 38, though I’m not sure that Oscar belongs, either.
Surprisingly, there are plenty of Argentina defenders among the top 50, and this has been repeatedly criticized as their weakness going into the tournament.
Very different ratings than those at whoscored, and neither seem to have it right.
Judging from how many goals Argentina has given up, that’s perfectly normal to have a bunch of defenders ranked high.
Yes. In fact my comment was meant to question all those who doubted Argentina could play defense.
They have had more trouble offensively, starting many attacks, just like Belgium, but finishing a very low %
Well they better step up without Di Maria.
Every team is missing key players. Isn’t Robben out with 2 yellows?
And Germany doesn’t have Reus, which lessens their speed.
It’s the consummate team sport, and no one player makes that much difference, even though he may actually be the difference in a given moment… kind of a contradiction, but true
Robben’s suspension was a joke; it didn’t really happen. But thanks for the encouragement.
Then, you’re fkd. Just kidding.
Easy to defend Sisters of the Blind
The main comfort to take from the Colombia game is that players seem to be calmer and playing soccer instead of looking nervous and waging war and making silly mistakes at least for the first 65-70 minutes. That was my singular wish for Brazil before the game and I am pleased with what they did except they stopped doing it for the last 20 minutes. And it is totally unacceptable that they chose to play like that even when they were 2-0 up. That, to me, was the perfect chance for Brazil to show its talent. When you are 2-0 up and there is only 20 minutes to play, you should calm down and play soccer, waste the time making simple passes, keep the ball, and counterattack when the opportunity presents itself. Brazil didnt do that and they were on the verge of losing the game.
With all due respect to Thiago Silva, one benefit of his absence is that even though his emotions bring the best out of him as a player, I dont think they bring the best out of him as a captain. He looks alittle too emotional and that affects the players around him.
So far David Luiz, Fernandinho, Maicon, Gustavo, Marcelo, Hulk, Fred, Neymar, paulinho seem to handle the pressure fairly well. I think Silva Oscar Dani Alves seem to be affected emotionally. Silva performs his defensive role well but his leadership seems to be a little too emotional. Again, I am saying this with a lot of respect because I know he has been extremely good in defense. The last two decisive knockout games he has been as close as anyone can get to perfection. We ll have him back for the final to end the Messi talk.
My biggest disappointment is Oscar, even more than Fred. I really like his defensive contribution. He has been amazing and I think he should be kept for that because the next two games are all about defending well and scoring one scrappy goal. He fits that kind of purpose.
I expect the Germans to play clean soccer. That probably plays into the hands of Brazil. Tactical fouls should continue to disrupt the flowing soccer the Germans play.
I expect something great from Fernandinho, Hulk and Willian. I am confident that they ll conjure something to show the world that Neymar is not the only talent in Brazil.
Vamos Brazil !!!
Not sure I agree with your analysis of the players emotional makeup. Silva has been a beast in the tourney, and as far as I can tell, a very good leader on the field. Tears, by the way, are not necessarily a sign of weakness.
Also, on what basis you have formed your player expectations (I wonder if this is not just wishful thinking)?
I do agree that Brazil cam dangerously close to letting things fall apart towards the end of the last game, as Colombia became increasingly aggressive, and were it not for the brilliant goal from DL, we would have been in real trouble.
Turning to Germany, I have my concerns about Dante, given his performance/form this past year. After a brilliant campaign the year before (during which I became one of his biggest boosters), Dante showed he can be quite error prone at the back, and I would have preferred the alternative were Miranda, but don’t get me started on some of Scolari’s callups.
A bigger problem exists in the attack, where Scolari has pinned the bulk of our success on Neymar, Fred, and Hulk. While I do like the way he has activated other members of the team as potential goal scorers, neither Hulk, nor especially Fred, are delivering, and who do we have to turn to now? The mighty midget, Bernard? The deferent, “not ready to seize the moment” Willian? The defensive Ramires? Clumsy Jo?
My contention is that better choices were available, if only for precisely this kind of situation (no Neymar, formless Fred).
But that is water under the bridge, now. The only solution against the Germans is speed, and the reactivation of Oscar as a primary distributer (either Willian or Ramires can pick up Oscar’s defensive duties), and the perhaps an early injection of Bernard to stir the mix (until he is neutralized). I am also hoping Scolari finds a way to activate Fernandinho more as a central lynch pin to the attack, which will allow Oscar to slide forward more into Neymar’s space.
We also need guys other than Luiz to step up and seize the moment, and, of course, we need our defensive stalwarts (Gustavo, whoever replaces Silva, and JC) to be just that.
Short of the coaching staff making these (or other) creative adjustments, I just don’t see how we will win unless we can simply hold Germany (which seems anti-Brazilan, and even against Scolari’s schemes) and go to penalties.
Your thoughts, ee
I think I agree with every single point and concern you expressed.
I want to see Bernard even as a second half sub, he can at least control the ball unlike some of our wooden posts/Freds.
I agree with pretty much everything other than our chances against Germany, I still think they’re slightly favourable.
I almost wish Bernard was tried at the start, and used to disrupt the Germans right off the bat. I think we need to use speed early on and go for goal, then replace Bernard with Willian or even Ramires (truth is, I think Bernard will only be effective for a short time before the Germans regain their composure, and hopefully they are down at least 1-0 by then).
I like Hernanes, and his skill set, as a second half sub, and despite my prediction, I think we definitely have a fighting chance if we play to our strengths, and attack their weaknesses (I agree with GS that Boateng is most susceptible on their right side, and see the combo of Marcelo / Bernard + as being a potential solution there.
Passion can lead to determination or to lack of control. Calmness can lead to control or apathy.
Every emotion can be considered a double-edged sword. The fact that TS embodies one of them isn’t necessarily a bad thing.
yellow shirts, white shorts again for semis
Stupid FIFA rules. Perhaps we will never see the blue shorts again, nor Argentina’s black shorts
Words of inspiration from El Phenomeno:
Ronaldo: Neymar loss doesn’t make Brazil weak
in Brazil EVERYONE 5 years old and older predicts the score of games. Was walking through a sunday fair today, and heard many women’s voices all giving their predictions …it seems almost obligatory to provide a prediction … newscasters, talk show hosts, guests, anyone in front of a microphone gives their prediction
fifa still to choose ref for semi final. CBF lobbied hard to exclude Howard Webb from the list of candidates, but he is still a candidate.
I like Howard Webb, he is actually my favorite ref, while Felix Brych should be avoided at all cost
The classy Argentian fans being classy as usual, mocking Neymar’s injury! This was before the game against Belgium yesterday.
Well, an hour later or so, during the game, they lost their second most important player of the team, Di Maria to injury! Karma is ……
I have always known Argentina’s fans to be the lowest of the lowest and this just confirms it. And to have the guts to do it in the middle of Brazil? Well, again, you have to be as low class as you can possibly be.
Really low and pathetic from them. This is frankly worse than all the fans (supporting teams other than Brasil) screaming that Brasil and FIFA have an arrangement for Brasil to win the world cup.
I personally hope they are banned from attending Argentina’s subsequent games.
Yes, these are the guys Dario/Kachisaw wants to see celebrating the WC title on Brazilian ground because his beloved HGH-pumped hunchbacked polka-dot-wearing prawn “deserves” a WC and it’s “only fair”.
The rumour that I am hearing in the media is
Dante for Silva and Hernanes/Ramires for Neymar. Paulinho situation is not clear.
It does not give me a lot of confidence with Fred and Paulinho still around although Paulinhos match against Colombia was better.
Size may be needed against the Germans which is why Scolari wouldn’t use Bernard. But hopefully he comes in as a sub.
Oscar gets the central position in this scenario and no Willian or Bernard.
Hernanes brings a booming shot from outside the box, passing, and tough defense, but is not very fast, or very creative off the dribble, whereas Ramires brings speed and activity that is primarily defensive, though he is capable of runs into the box, especially on counters.
I can see why Bernard is not being considered (though I think he could be a real asset for about 30 minutes as a spark), but not sure why Willian is not, as he seems to embody aspects of both Hernanes and Ramires. That said, his last performance against Chile was underwhelming.
i have not heard this rumor in BR media yet, so it may be just rumor. Most are still saying willian or bernard.
Though Zagalo did say he thought, knowing Scolari, that it would be hulk and fred starting, with bernard as 2nd half sub, he did not say who the “extra” starter would be or where.
IMO starting Ramires would only make sense if it meant that he would take over most of Oscar’s defensive load and allow Oscar to be a true CAM.
I think that Bernard would be most effective as a spark from the get go, and think that his inclusion at the start could really disrupt the Germans and help us get an early goal.
That said, I don’t think he will be effective for very long, and hope that if he is in Scolari’s plans, that he is not overused because the Germans will eventually take full advantage….
Wow, so much anti-Brasil sentiment on goal.com, dailymail.co.uk, and the bleacher report. I bet all these butt-hurt losers probably can’t sleep at night considering thinking about Brasil’s accomplishments over the years and the failures of their own teams. Looking at the commentary in this aritcle – http://www.goal.com/en/news/3790/world-cup-2014/2014/07/06/4940699/brazil-lodge-appeal-against-thiago-silva-suspension?ICID=OP.
This has become pathetic and really low from the opposition team’s fans.
Here in the Netherlands it’s the same. Zero stars and still think that they invented the game. Mocking the way Brazil plays. It’s payback time. We have to win this thing to shut up all haters.
I don’t expect out midfield to win the battle against their German counterparts but this is not a problem by itself. This team can play very well on the counterattack and actually even prefers to play that way.
There are, however, two questions: How good will our counterattacks be without Neymar and how well can the defines contain the Germans in Thiago Silva’s absence?
The answers to these two questions will most likely determine the outcome of this game.
That pretty much sums it up
Marcelo’s grandfather has passed away.
Damn it how much will the team loses to win the cup lol.
Poor guy, I hope he is able to find some peace in such a rough time – both for him and the team. RIP Marcelo’s grandfather.
I am watching the game again and to be honest Neymar did not play well at all against Colombia. He tried but I think he was injured from the Chile game. So, maybe a change against Germany vs. an injured Neymar is not a bad thing…
Brazil has been playing with 10 players all tournament because of Fred
An injured Neymar is ALWAYS a bad thing!
Yup. Even with the best of Brasil teams it would take a stroke of “magic” to beat Germany. Where’s the magic going to come from without Neymar ?
We have to win this for Neymar, simple as that. The guy has given his all every 90 minutes for every game since his debut. Still, he and Brazil generally have been getting nothing but shit from the global media. We are now underdogs. People give Germany too much credit, they are a solid side but poorer than the ones Spain defeated in the WC and Euros. They are defeatable. Completely.
I cannot believe we are going to a WC for the third time without a contingency plan, we failed in 2006 because CAP clinged on to his failing ways and refused to bench his old guard. In 2010 we faced unfamiliar scenarios with a sorely thin bench and 2014 Scolari came walking a fine line like he did in 2002 but this time he faced a frightening yet foreseeable regression in the form of his controversial “familia” members with a bench whose weakness is only now starkly apparent when Neymar’s copa ended. Willian is not as decisive and Bernard is alarmingly weak physically – still I’d like to see either play behind Hulk with Fred OUT.
If Fred plays, if Paulinho sets foot on the field, if Ramires replaces Neymar, Scolari will only bring the wrath of the football gods on his ailing tactics. Scolari will deserve to lose, but Brazil and Neymar won’t. Scolari needs to wake the fuck up already, it’s getting pathetic.
Scolari might have improved the Mano crap XI and created a more consistent, less messy Selecao up until last summer, but I tell you, I’ve never been so scared for the Selecao in a WC in my life.
I just read that Willian is out for the semi? Is that true?!!
Forced to leave early, injury to back it seems. Nothing official. This is truly fucked.
Oh come on! I mean, why are we suddenly getting hit by all this bad luck?!!
What’s the point of whining about it. Football is played with 11 players functioning as a team, and Brazil brought 23 of its best (or should have), all of whom should be ready to compete as well as contribute to a victory on home soil.
I’m “whining” about because you don’t expect your best players to not be available for the biggest game of the tournament!
Shit happens in the WC, suspensions, injuries, our coaches don’t learn the lesson and don’t leave room for variables. Dunga did it and now Scolari too. It’s funny how Fred, Jo, Henrique and Paulinho don’t get injured but our key players are either an inch away from paralysis, commit a stupid foul and get suspended for arguably our most important fixture in 4 years and then Neymar’s potential sub is forced to leave training early.
Guys, let’s say, theoretically we could call ONE player to replace Neymar, who would you guys want?
Believe it or not, I’d actually be tempted to bring Lucas (Moura) or Coutinho, or even Robinho (especially Robinho).
Also, if we could swap Fred someone, I would laterally pick ANY one of the following: Pato, Damiao, or even Nilmar. None of these guys can be worse than Fred!
Jo is useless, he brings ABSOLUTELY nothing to the table. For me he’s the worst player to be in a Selecao WC roster for as long as I remember, I’d have anyone instead of him in the list of 23: Robinho, Firmino, Lucas Moura, heck even Ronaldinho and Kaka.
I keep wondering why Nilmar decided to destroy his career by moving to Qatar (or wherever it is that he plays nowadays).
I loved Nilmar and thought he was a potential forward for this team, at least off the bench, but he turned out to be injury prone, and his skills/effectiveness eroded before they peaked.
Hopefully we won’t be saying the same thing about Neymar 4 years from now. I really wonder how much pounding his body can take before it takes a more long term toll?
Until the WC, Neymar’s diving (not the simulation kind) helped him avoid injury. He was a sitting duck for the Zuniga injury and the thigh injury wasn’t very serious. You’d think he’d gett Messi’like protection from refs as he improves. The problem is Neymar is not being protected at all by the refs. I think his reputation as a diver has really hurt him in that regard. It’s too bad because he really doesn’t dive anymore. He was really bad at one point in his career because the Brasilerao let him get away with it. On this specific point, staying in Brasil about two years too long really hurt him.
I have a soft spot for Lucas but he’s the one who would cause Germany the most problem no questions asked. The other players while are not slow aren’t burners like Lucas. Even though Neymar has improved his finishing, I don’t think we could ever count on him to win us games with his scoring. His ability to draw fouls, corners and bookings were actually very useful. I have seen Lucas play and those are all things he’s very good at doing although he tends not to go down that easily.
Firmino, or Raffael.
They are tough, fast, can dribble, pass, shoot, and play D. Everything we need.
As for strikers, besides Costa, I think Fabiano would have been a better answer
Pato has been shockingly bad for Sao Paulo … SHOCKINGLY BAD
He’d still perform better than Fred is
I remember a couple of tackles by Fernandinho that were hard challenges on James but other than that and the JC slide the fouls were more about trying to stop the run of play. I don’t remember them being dirty.
The horrible sequence of events (Neymar injury, dirty game, etc) would have never occurred if FDinho would have been given the yellow he deserved early on
I don’t know about that, but after the second goal Neymar should have been taken off without a doubt.
I actually thought, on first glance, that Zuniga’s challenge wasn’t as bad as the one Vidal gave to Neymar in the Chilean match,
I agree. Did Vidal even get a card for that?
Neymar was clearly still feeling a lingering injury in this match and was largely ineffective, subbing him should have been a priority.
No he didn’t.
In the absence of cards, both teams felt they could foul with impunity.
That might be true even in the presence of cards. Frustration doesn’t usually result in logical actions.
The ref should have pulled each overly assaultive player aside and given a stern warning, and then followed up with yellow cards the next time they traversed the boundary.
That’s what refs like Webb do, and that’s what I like about him.
The Spaniard ref did do that, but to no effect. I wouldn’t say Webb did a good a job in the Brazil vs Chile game either.
Clearly he didn’t. His stern warnings didn’t prevent Neymar from being injured and he didn’t even hand yellows on those challenges.
It’s like poor parenting. Stern warnings must be followed by punitive action otherwise nobody takes you seriously. “Don’t make me warn you again!”
Absolutely! I said, Dante should have come on right after the yellow to TS to get him ready for the next game. Would make sense to protect the lead with more defensive play.
Of course hindsight is 20/20
I wouldn’t call Brazil’s style dirty, but I would call it “physically aggressive,” and, in truth, I thought that Brazil instigated the physicality of the match with Colombia in the first half that Colombia escalated in the second.
Go back through the match, impartially if you can, and watch they way Brazil treated Rodriguez and others up front. It wasn’t just Fernandinho, who probably deserved a yellow for the worst of his fouls.
Was the way they treated James dirty or aggressive? Like I said, I don’t remember. Not trying to be biased.
Brazil under Scolari has always been aggressive, but not so much that it deserves international shellacking. They were certainly not at the level of Honduras in this world cup, or even France during their game against Nigeria.
“Very aggressive” is what I saw. We slammed physically assaulted Rodriguez and Cuadrado, which very clearly prevented them from being effective, and Colombia did the same thing with Neymar.
In my OP, the ref didn’t control it as he should have much earlier on, and it made for a somewhat “ugly,” if not “dirty” game.
Like I said, I saw some strong mistimed tackles on James by Fernandinho (he seems to average one of these a game). I don’t remember any other specifics, but I feel like the majority was slight contact correctly deemed as an infraction aimed at disrupting the flow of the game. Ugly but tactically sound. I doubt all 31 fouls were as severe as Fernandinho’s worst.
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I don’t think that Fernandinho was rougher than Luiz, Silva, Marcelo, and others. Fernandinho’s foul in the first half stood out because it was a late challenge in the open field, but actually Fernandinho controlled himself much better thereafter, unlke many others on both sides.
I think that Brazil roughed up Colombia from the start, and that this was the main strategy to stop their attack. I also think that it walked the edge of being appropriate, and that it worked big time in the first half.
I think that Colombia more or less retaliated to this abuse (and being down 1, then 2 goals) with even rougher play in the second half as they fought to get back in it.
The result both aided and cost Brazil in the end.
I saw Black Matt tried posting a new article but, like most of the comments alerted, the link didn’t work.. It’s way too buried to go looking for it now, but did BM ever respond notifying us that he was aware and would try and get it up?
Don’t think so.
No, still eagerly awaiting!
No. I think BM has far more important matters to attend to. Scolari flew him into Brasil to pick his brain about possible Neymar’less formations.
So many things happening and developing by the minute. Now just hearing some rumors that if Brazil beats Germany and reached the final , there is a chance Neymar could play (all depends on how he feels and with lots if painkillers)
Now here is the Q: assuming the rumors are true and let us say Brazil beats Germany convincingly (say 2-0) and play their best game if the Cup so far, would you want Neymar to play in the final? I personally wouldn’t, knowing that he would be ineffective and clog the movement and freedom of the other players. But if it is late in the final and Brazil is down or the game is tied, I wouldn’t mind getting him in as a sub and hope for a moment if magic.
Think about this last scenario: the final game is tied, Neymar us brought in and scores to win the game (hopefully against Argentina)! That would instantly elevate his statues to one of the best ever and shatter Messi’s mythical image…
Until then, let us get over over Germany first…
I read that depending on how he’s feeling there’s a chance he will be in the stadium to WATCH the final, not play.
I also read this on Globo (through Google translate). Neymar’s doctors are apparently pondering this theoretical possibility. One doctor said that what Neymar has is the least severe spinal injury there could be, so there is a small (again, SMALL) chance that he could play with painkillers. The report said, however, that it is ultimately upon Neymar and his family to decide whether to take this risk.
Anyway, we have to beat Germany and reach the final first, for this option to even be considered.
Exactly what I read too and your last paragraph is what I thought too! Yes, even if it is a rumor, it is so nice to read. But for now, it is all about beating Germany. Nothing else matters. That is how they beat Colombia: by being 100% ready for the game.
At this point, I think Neymar has given everybody enough. Let the kid heal. Reading that story about Neymar agonizing on the field screaming “I can’t feel my legs” was just too much for me. I think Brasil’s obsession for winning on home soil has just gone too far. I’m a win at all costs type of guy, but I just get this feeling like things have gotten out of control.
Saul it was on twitter from @brazilstats , so to verify it, I searched and saw a few other people mention it including some credible users who know Brazil soccer.
You are right, things keep changing by the day and even hours :
1-Friday: Neymar is out of the WC and won’t play for up two months
2-Friday night: Though still serious , He won’t require surgery after all
3-Saturday night: Neymar been given the green light to attend the next game-all depending on how he feels that day.
4-today: There is a chance Neymar may play in the final if a Brazil gets there.
By the way, no word of a lie, and even though I knew it was a serious injury, but since we kept hearing that the injury wouldn’t require surgery, I started thinking : since the doctors keep revising his health status, could we read the unthinkable and see him declared fit for a potential final?
So if these rumors are correct, my suspicious feeling would come true.
But I really hope the team doesn’t start focusing on the final game and forget about Germany! Because Germany will likely be harder than whoever they meet in the final.
I wouldn’t risk it. Imagine aggravating that injury. His first touches on the ball would be cautious and heavy.
We don’t need his body, we need his spirit. If the team rallies around his injury they can play like 11 Neymars.
agree, and more importantly we need to beat Germany first
This is crazy: Neymar reportedly considering a drastic injection that would potentially allow him to play the final should we beat Neurmany.
Crazy indeed! Wonder if this will distract the players or motivate them for the match against Germany. That should be the total focus now and not whether Neymar will play in a game we haven’t even reached.
BTW I wonder how Barca would feel about this ?
How would you feel if somebody was using your $100 million investment?
Its more like how do you feel if your investment was using itself?
Mexican referee Marco Rodríguez will officiate Brazil vs Germany Link: http://t.co/AUogVITGhj
Anyone knows anything about him? Howard Webb will probably take the other SF.
the Japanese ref was not available?
Not sure. Would be funny if he gets the Dutch again. This time he won’t-excuse the pun-fall for Robbin’s theatrics lol
Looks like he has some blood on his hands since he was the referee for Italy vs. Uruguay ( we all know what happened in that game)
Given Germany’s deep roster and their ability to craft different lineups for different opponents, I suspect Scolari will really try to keep his lineup as secret as possible, even to the point of disinformation until the last minute.
We should have a roster deep enough to compete with anyone
lol it’s not like they have 30-players and we have 22! I blame Scolari for the lack of different formations/tactics we can successfully apply unlike the Dutch and the Germans.
on Globo tv there is a 6 way argument over who should play Tuesday. Every single combination possible is being touted by someone. its quite funny.
Guys, some of you are seriously playing with my feelings with all these rumors/reports about Neymar possibly being able to play in the final if Brazil gets there 🙁
I mentioned this as possible miracle, but don’t think it could actually happen.
Even if he played he wouldn’t be right. So no need to get excited about the possibility. Best to just hope he’s given the time he needs to recuperate.
If Brazil is in the final , as a coach, I would float the idea but not confirm it, to keep the opposition guessing. Only in the last minute, announce that he is not playing (starting)
I know that we would all want Neymar to play in the final but I do not think it would be a wise choice. Even though this injury, which was in the transverse process of the vertebrae, is not that serious and just requires immobilization, it should not be taken lightly.
I would love to see him playing and realizing his dream but the player that would step into the field would not be the same player we have come to love over the years. I think it is best for him to sit this one out and prepare for the future. Maybe he will see his dream come true in 2018 and we will win this and the next world cup lol.
With friends like these, who needs enemies. On one hand you’ve got the agent trying protect his client/paycheck. On the other hand, you’ve got the team doctor throwing the player under the bus pretty much saying “you’re fine you big baby, get out there!”
Argentina: Di Maria could be fit for the final
They’re not making it to the final
The link isn’t working. What is it about?
i am convinced that the problem with refereeing in this copa is the suspension system itself.
Think about it. The refs are put in a double bind (lose lose) situation with current structure:
– They are incented to not give too many yellows in order to keep teams at full strength and avoid massive suspensions
– Yet, by not giving yellows they are allowing violence to escalate and games become wars.
Either way the refs look bad and everyone is unhappy.
But most people are not seeing the root cause which imo is the 2 card suspension policy. If this were lightened up or modified to have 2 kinds of yellows (as someone suggested here), the consequences for everyone would be positive. Refs could hand out more cards to keep particular games under control … a single player would still be ejected for 2 yellows in a single game for instance. But instead of missing a full game with 2 cards, a player could miss say one half.
I say go back to the rule of yellow in consecutive games = suspension. Having a yellow hang around for several games is just lame.
that alone would help
I agree. The suspensions are too harsh when the individual games are so important in single elimination. With suspensions so harsh, FIFA has pulled back on giving cards and their entire system is upended.
Agreed. I hate the current suspension rule. Two yellows in five games does not warrant a suspension.
Every sport news I’ve read predicts that Brazil are going to get beat “convincingly” by the Germans. Really? Have they forgotten that this match is being played in Brazil? Have they forgotten that the last time Brazil lost in Brazil was many, many years ago? Have they forgotten that Scolari is managing this side? Yes Brazil may very well lose. Yes they are now playing with their backs against the wall but the Germans are going to have to really bring the fight to beat this team and even then I’m not sure that that will be enough. Brazil have come way too far to now go out easily, that’s what I believe anyways…
I think Brazil playing as underdog is better. The pressure will be less, they will be more focus and determined.
Below is a loose translation of a blogger’s comment from Globo website in Brazil:
“I dreamed about the final game of World Cup 2014, Brazil versus Argentina. Minute 46 of the
second half, last play of the game, an unusual play by Higuain, he finds Messi alone on the right, Messi cuts inside, Daniel Alves can’t keep up with him, Thiago Silva arrives, Messi blocks him, Messi passes to Lavezzi, Lavezzi does not vacillate, shoots strongly on the right corner of Julio Cesar, JC cannot get to the ball, the ball slams into the back of the net. Right after that, the referee ends the match. Brazil 5 x 1 Argentina”.
I like creative rivalries like this one.
Love the twist at the end.
WTF Alves started the final and not Maicon???
Haha I was so hating this dream until I got to the last sentence 🙂
The way I see it Germany is the hardest to beat. If Brazil can beat Germany, they should be very confident against Argentina or Holland. No need to risk Neymar for the final. Sounds a little unethical for Brazil to risk its golden boy.
There’s no way he should be allowed to play. It’s awful that he’s injured but the team should not jeopardize his career.
three things be sure of them :
1.. Neymar : can never ever play the final : no way out : forget
what ever done : injection :::or so on :
you can not take a risk of paraplegia : it could happen
we are dealing with ethics
2.. Brazil : with this 22 players : even all play against 11
germany players : we can not beat Germany
3…Scolari will never forget his fatal mistakes :
by the way in 2002 he did it : omission of Romario :
but luck play with us : Ballack suspended
now he repeated his mistakes :”
luck play against him : Neymar injured:
now THE PHILIPAO was exposed
only a donkey can repeat his mistakes
Scolari is a Donkey
conclusion : Scolari has a chance to become the best
brazilian coach : he spoiled it :
lost it : by stupid selection : since confedration cup
do u think a coach play with only one plan is a coach
do u think a coach who choose Fred and Jo ::
even in confedration cup is a coach
please do not forget :
in 2005 : and 2009 we are champions of confedration cup
now we play in Brazil :
poor result :for brazil :
what ever you seed : u harvested
Can you just, for once, stop going against Brazil. Stupid computers nowadays. You must have been the computer Barclays used to make their predictions, or the one pele used the last 20 years. On second thought, keep making your predictions. Up to this point, you’ve been way off. Makes me wonder if you know anything about futbol.
you are funny
yes iam 100 percent wrong in my predictions
all wrong : i agree
but in this world cup : no logic
how can Spain eleminated from group stage
Costa Rica till round 8??
how can Fred + Jo were strikers
not for Ghana or Cameroon
for BRAZIL ?????????????
you + Scolari know football
first spell it correctly then know some of it
THE FIRST IS JUNIOR NOT SOCRATES
THE FIRST IS JUNIOR NOT SOCRATES
The reverse prophet has spoken
The perfect replacement for Neymar to me would be Marcelo. He’s quick on his feet and he gets past defenders easily with his dribbling skills and his crosses are accurate. To replace him on Left Back would be Maxwell who defends very well and his crosses too, are quiet good. On the other hand Marcelo would also tend to fall back and defend since he is actually left back. And against the Germans we need a good defensive side to stop the likes of Muller and Kroos. However, Fred should be replaced by the mighty Hulk who has been impressive the past few games but only lacked a good finish. Probably at Fred’s position he might find the net. And on the Right wing it can be either Bernard or Willian.
That’s not a bad idea though Marcelo’s finishing is pretty substandard, even his shooting lacks proper aim.
What you are suggesting takes a good manager to try. Scolari isn’t that type of manager. He’s old school, like Zagallo, like CAP, they will go for the ordinary rather than the inventive.
Out of curiosity, list your top 3 managers
Be Specific? Current or all-time? Brazilian or otherwise?
A list of all three categories would be of interest
– Jose Mourinho
– Fabio Capello
– Jurgen Klopp + Diego Simeone
Capello? Of all people I never thought he’d be a name you’d suggest
I think he’s a brilliant coach, nvm his Russian conquest, they were a terrible team. As for England, they’re so shit no one can fix them
You approved of his work at Real?
As in throwing out Ronaldo?
Ronaldo wasn’t training properly, partied too much and was off-form. Ronaldo is my all-time favorite but he had it coming at that time.
Fuck yes, like Jose, he is a no nonsense coach. He was the first real coach RM had after VDB. Who can forget the 2006/07 Liga? and who else would give the fickle pro-Marca/AS hotdog/pepsi Madridistas the middle finger?
Objectively (I say so because I know you’re a RM fan) where would you rank Pep Guardiola?
Pep Guardiola is a smart man, he coached/coaches two massively ready teams with upgrades [Rijkaard’s Barca + Messi and Heynckes’ Bayern + Goetze and Alcantara]. I’m not a fan of the system he employes [tiki-taka] and cannot benchmark his coaching based on the fact I stated above.
Guardiola needed the “catalan” hype to do his job. That hype has died. He made Bayern Munich slower and took the bite out of them. I seriously dont think he ll ever achieve anything near what he achieved at Barca.
But he is young enough to evolve and do things differently.
That pretty much corresponds to my list.
But Brazil are left with no other better option. Willian cannot get past the german defence for sure..and Bernard still young and lacks international experience. Marcelo on the other hand has international experience and we all know how dangerous he can get on the flank up front. Even though his shots are not accurate he can atleast get past the slow German defence easily and shoot from a closer range.
In other words, he is no LvG!
That’s a new idea!
Me like it
We can defeat Germany without going to extraterrestrial lengths. France were without their own “Neymar”: Ribery and were a functional side much like we are and they threatened Germany and could have scored 2 or 3. France isn’t as good a side as we are [on-paper]
Here is the deal, we have to be clinical, we have to go for the jugular from the onset, we have to finish whatever chances we get and beat Neur. Neymar is our top finisher and he is out, that’s problematic because Fred hasn’t been getting much service and his otherwise impeccable positioning has been off. Hulk lack that cutting edge, he takes one touches too many, or dribbles too much or simply unlucky. If we are to sting these German bastards it’ll have to be something special from Bernard/Willian or Oscar.
Time for Fred and the rest of the attack to prove their worth, and my inner prognosticator at times has Them doing just that.
Oscar to Fred for a toe tap in the box as he outmuscles the German defender.
Unfortunately, the majority of my scenarios are grim, and right now they are trending worse and worse as pendulum swings with greater velocity.
Here’s hoping I see the light again before game time o Tuesday
I was thinking : the likes of Fred, Jo and Paulinho have been so awful so far and it is time they stepped it up for Neymar. Look at what Neymar has done for the team. It is time they paid him back and played their hearts out on Tuesday. If this doesn’t motivate these three, I don’t know what will?
motivation is one thing, capability is another.
This hits the nail on the head!
how abt this formation
When creating a starting line up, the coaching staff has to consider options on the bench. While your proposed line seems potentially effective, whom would you go to on the bench if the team is unable to score after 90 minutes?
That’s a gamble you take when you call-up half-assed space monkeys like Jo and Fred.
Alright, this is about as repetitive as the posts Ali made. Lets just go ahead and all agree that every post from here on out implies this point.
Ah yes, don’t criticize Scolari.
Line-ups, formations, talent/depth are all important. Not sufficient however. Of the four teams in the semis, it s the one that wants it the most that will lift the Cup next Sunday. In that sense, Neymar’s injury might be a blessing in disguise.
It’s better to have tactical flexibility than not to. Simple as that.
Bernard, hernanes, ramires (to a lesser extent). I would even use Oscar as a 9. He’s a good finisher and great at pressing. Hulk’s speed can be used in the wings, while using Wilian in the middle. Just another thoughts.
If we need to score against Germany, only Hernanes might be able to make a difference with his powerful shot. Bernard has been ineffective. Ramires is not a good option is we re behind.
I actually like this formation very much!!
That’s exactly what I was thinking of. I think it gives us a good balance between offense and defense.
Since Scolari isn’t likely to go with 3-5-2, this will work very well. We’d still have Fred, Jo and Bernard on the bench.
I would love to see this given a try. We can only dream. A lineup without Fred or Paulinho will mean that Scolari will instantaneously combust.
This would be a very competitive line up
Did anyone post the Zonal Marking analysis of the Brazil Match? He is not very impressed by Brazil’s play.
Here is the Tim Vickery article he links to; I think someone linked to it earlier. Vickery laments Brazil’s lack of a midfielder to linkup play, something a lot of you have noted as well.
I agree 100% with this statement ‘
“Previously Oscar’s starting point was in the middle, while Neymar
played high on the left.”
That is the biggest problem for me with Oscar playing on the flanks – Brazil loses that extra body in MF which cannot happen as games can be won & lost in MF. Especially against the Germans with their system based on the Spanish possession tika taka style – thanks to Guardiolas influence on Bayern thus the German NT
(My team City got thumped at home b/c we were too inexperienced to acknowledge that playing 2 MFs albeit Yaya Toure & Fernandino against a 3-4 man MF would not work…..)
We keep talking about Brazil vs. Germany game but what about the other one. Who do you think will win it? I know Argentina was better in the QF but still no convinced. Holland on the other hand, though they couldn’t score, I like how they attacked Costa Rica and got to the net with such ease. But they were unlucky not to score.
I take Holland to win. That of course is also what I would like to see happen.
I know a lot of people want it to be a classic dream final between Argentina vs. Brazil (Messi vs. Neymar) but frankly I don’t care especially now that Neymar is out, that rivalry just won’t be the same. Not to mention, I don’t want Argentina anywhere near the final so they don’t have any chance of winning it.
The game will play to Argentina’s hands. They have been really good on the counter-attack during the qualifiers and the loss of Di Maria will precipitate Argentina to defend deep to deny Robben and van Persie space (similar to what Costa Rica and Mexico did, except Argentina has far more firepower on the counter attack).
Wasn’t Messi + DiMaria the heart of the counter attack? I also wouldn’t be so sure that Holland won’t play for the counter
They were, Di Maria is a huge loss, but I think Palacio/Lavezzi are adequate replacements.
I know you are an Argentina fan, but have you watched Holland play? Holland IS a counterattacking team. The Costa Rica game is the first time they played to attack all tournament except when they have fallen behind. Saying Argentina has more firepower on the counterattack is pushing it to say the least. Make no mistake about it, Robben has been the best player so far at the WC and he is the best player when it comes to counterattacking. While Van Persie has been average the last two games, Sneijder has picked up immensely. A trio of Robben, Van Persie and Sneijder is certainly as good or better than any trio Argentina can field out there. Another thing is that I give Van Gaal a big edge when it comes to coaching.
When I say far more firepower I meant in comparison to Costa Rica and Mexico. Remember these two teams have had chances on the counter against Netherlands (notable example is in the second half of extra time in the CR vs Netherlands match), but bad finishing prevented them from scoring.
Robben and RVP and Sneijder are very good players, but if Argentina play to their strengths and defend the way they do against Belgium and Switzerland, they stand a good chance of holding the Dutch at bay and scoring a few of their own.
You do know that was THE only notable attack by CR in 120 minutes, while Netherlands hit the cross bar once and the post twice. The Netherlands probably had 5 clear cut chances to score while I would say CR had a half chance. Note also, this happened because Netherlands took out a defender for a forward.
I definitely wouldn’t compare Netherlands to Switzerland and not even to Belgium who were the biggest flop of the WC. No one who’s being objective would say Argentina has been more impressive than the Dutch so far. At best this is a toss up game but objectively speaking, based on what both teams have done at the WC, Holland should be the favorite.
Yes, they would be the favourite. Argentina do stand a chance though.
I just checked the ELO Rankings and was surprised to find that the 4 teams left are the teams they had ranked #1-4 as of June 5th.
Pretty solid if you ask me, and much better than the fifa rankings.
Not only that, but they nailed the rest of the top 17 pretty good, as well, with only Spain, Portugal, England, and Italy failing to live up to their ranking, and the African teams a wee bit slighted:
Greetings again from Rio. My stomach is full of churrasco but I’m still feeling sick over Neymar. I saw him on TV yesterday giving an emotional announcement about his injury and I felt so horrible for him. It was heart-wrenching to see something so cruel happen to someone who brings so much joy to the sport and who so plainly loves and appreciates his fans.
There’s a lot to cover on the soccer front. First off, I went to the Germany-France game at the Maracana and it was miserably hot under the midday sun. I can only imagine what it must have been like for the players. I went with five other people and we all wore our USA kits (it was the 4th of July, after all), and on the way to the game in the metro station, a whole ocean of people going the other way to fan fest started yelling at us, either giving us supportive “U-S-A” chants or booing at us. I’d never had anything like it happen to me. The game itself was considerably less dramatic than some of the others have been, and the fans were much less rowdy than the ones at the Uruguay-Colombia game. I came into the game feeling fairly neutral, but in the end I found myself completely rooting for France. I’ve always liked Benzema and Pogba was a treat to see in person. His skill was superb and it was nice to see how passionate he was on the field.
I watched the Brazil game from the fan fest in Copacabana and it was spectacular. Before then I’d been pretty lukewarm on the fan fests, but seeing the Brazilian fans out in full force was awesome. There must have been at least 50 thousand people there, spread between the streets, the interior of the event, and the beach. I myself was on the beach, surrounded by Brazilians in swimsuits, vendors selling cheap drinks, and energetic-but-civil Brazil fans, all eventually under the moonlight and with the Christ statue in full view in the background. I was mostly pleased with the game, though I think like everyone I got a bit nervous near the end. It was nice to see Paulinho playing more aggressively, and I was pretty happy with Maicon overall. He had a couple of bad giveaways and he’s clearly a fair amount slower than Alves, but he’s generally much more prudent with the ball. The officiating of course was awful and we still didn’t see much from Oscar and Fred, but Brazil still managed to put in their most convincing performance thus far. And wow, David Luiz. Love that guy.
Speaking of spectacular, last night I watched the sunset from Sugarloaf Moutain and it was all I could have hoped for. What an amazing, sweeping city. It was almost enough to wash away the awful memory from earlier in the day of listening to drunken Argentines on the beach chant about Neymar being a “puto.” After Sugarloaf I rushed back to the apartment I’ve been staying at to catch the very end of the Costa Rica-Netherlands game. I was hoping Costa Rica would pull through and become the ultimate World Cup Cinderella, but I wasn’t too upset to see the Netherlands win. Robben is easy to hate but is also sort of hard not to love in a way. He just has such a distinctive style on the ball and plays with so much intensity. The guy’s definitely got a supervillain thing going on.
So today I went downtown to see the Metropolitan Cathedral (which was very impressive) and the modern art museum, and tomorrow I’m going to finally take the trip to see the Christ the Redeemer statue. I sure hope the visibility is as good as it was at Sugarloaf.
Also, thanks for all the analysis guys. I wish I could join in a bit more but I have limited wifi access and typing from my phone is pretty painful. Reading it has been great though.
Thank you again. The updates never disappoint. Sadly, the WC is almost coming to a close
Thanks Saul. I wouldn’t have kept up as well as I have if it wasn’t for your encouragement.
Sounds like you are having fun
It’s been a really memorable trip. I definitely miss the comforts of home but I’ll be bummed when it’s all over.
jealous of you man!
I am reading this in some media reports. I fervently hope that this is not true. It is both medically and tactically incorrect and may endanger this amazing players future career.
This cannot and should not be done. I hope that this news is bogus and no one in CBF is trying such a stupid and mindless misadventure.
Don’t worry this will not happen. Nobody with a sane mind should think this could happen. These are just ridiculous rumours.
I sincerely hope so.
I saw that the link I posted didn’t work, so here it is again. My newest article, on the 7 reasons why Brazil can still beat Germany without Neymar: http://brazilworldcupblog.net/2014/07/7-reasons-why-brazil-can-still-beat-germany-without-neymar/
I’ve double-checked this one and I know it works this time.
Previously, the article had a tribute to Neymar section, but I’ve removed it. I’ll post it as a stand-alone article at a later date.
Hey guys, I’ve been trying hard not to write anything because of the immense shame I’m feeling.
Somehow, however, I am not angry. I stopped watching the game after the 3rd, but it wasn’t out of sadness or anger, somehow, I wasn’t surprised. I would’ve bet on my life that such humiliating loss was impossible for ANY Brazill team to suffer!
But this loss has been coming for a long time now. Even before Scolari, this long has been coming. I just never expected it to be this humiliating.
Brazil’s complete turn around from “Jogo bonito” is partly responsible, and it all started with the era of Dunga.
I’ve said it before on this blog before, the WORST thing that can happen to a team that’s playing poorly is winning. Because winning while playing badly gives the false idea that everything is ok. It’s like a student who keeps cheating and getting away with it by passing. At one point, you’re bound to get a reality check. Winning the ’09 and the 2013 CC is the worst thing that could’ve happened to us.
This new culture that we have adopted of playing with players because of their international status needs to stop!!
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